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You almost have to feel sorry for Rushi!

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CvD66 Mon 20-Feb-23 13:35:43

First he has the opportunity to go down in history by finally resolving the Northern Ireland post Brexit trading agreement but that interfering former PM is stirring up trouble, wanting to retain his version of the Northern Ireland protocol. That’s worked so well …not!
Then you’ve got that other former PM, Truss, taking to the international stage, without authority, by suggestion a European alliance to stand up to China - pity no one’s thought of that before. Oh but they did.
And don’t forget his super new Deputy Party Chair with his thoughtless comments on refugees, a proportion of which could removed if the UK still had access to the European wide criminal records.
He can’t even get his old boss Richard Sharp to stop the former proTory politics presenter Laura Kuenssberg who contradicted the Tory ministers claim of ‘Vaccines, vaccines’ as a Brexit benefit, reminding her the UK was still officially in the EU at the time of the vaccines rollout !

GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Feb-23 13:43:47

The U.K. ceased to be a member of the EU on 31/01/2020, Laura Kuenssberg probably meant the U.K. was in the transition period which ended on 32/12/2020.

Technically LK was and is wrong.

Quokka Mon 20-Feb-23 14:04:25

He picked up the poisoned chalice because he wanted to be PM. Ambition. No sympathy.

Fleurpepper Mon 20-Feb-23 14:08:35

Do you have sympathe for the DUP, Johnson and the ERG who will do everything to scupper the GFA? Really?

fb.watch/iP67NNKuN1/

Wyllow3 Mon 20-Feb-23 14:16:58

Fleurpepper

Do you have sympathe for the DUP, Johnson and the ERG who will do everything to scupper the GFA? Really?

fb.watch/iP67NNKuN1/

No, I don't. It appears that its only the DUP getting int he way of a reasonable solution that all other NI parties want. They are now a minority, but large enough to scupper matters.

Fleurpepper Mon 20-Feb-23 14:20:15

And yet the DUP will be the first ones to complain if NI's economy is brought down to level of rest of UK!

eazybee Mon 20-Feb-23 14:29:45

Sunak solving the Northern Ireland trading agreement??
At what cost?
I have no sympathy for him at all; he schemed and connived his way into being Prime Minister, through vaulting ambition, and he is way out of his depth.

Witzend Mon 20-Feb-23 14:32:19

Quokka

He picked up the poisoned chalice because he wanted to be PM. Ambition. No sympathy.

Personally I admire anyone with the guts to take on the post-Boris/Truss mess, knowing very well that the Tories are almost certainly going to be wiped out at the next general election.

(Mods, please correct the OP’s title!)

Casdon Mon 20-Feb-23 14:34:40

eazybee

Sunak solving the Northern Ireland trading agreement??
At what cost?
I have no sympathy for him at all; he schemed and connived his way into being Prime Minister, through vaulting ambition, and he is way out of his depth.

If he did indeed scheme and connive his way to be PM, at least that’s one thing we can all thank him for, as he is at least more competent than the last two.

Joseanne Mon 20-Feb-23 14:45:49

My vet told me last week that they are poised to change the 13 page dog travel forms back to the old passport system if the Nothern Ireland agreement comes off. 🤞 Go Rishi!

MaizieD Mon 20-Feb-23 14:47:02

GrannyGravy13

The U.K. ceased to be a member of the EU on 31/01/2020, Laura Kuenssberg probably meant the U.K. was in the transition period which ended on 32/12/2020.

Technically LK was and is wrong.

While in the transition period, during which time the vaccine rollout occurred, the UK was still operating under EU regulation.

The full horror of leaving the EU hadn't then come into play...

MaizieD Mon 20-Feb-23 14:54:58

Wyllow3

Fleurpepper

Do you have sympathe for the DUP, Johnson and the ERG who will do everything to scupper the GFA? Really?

fb.watch/iP67NNKuN1/

No, I don't. It appears that its only the DUP getting int he way of a reasonable solution that all other NI parties want. They are now a minority, but large enough to scupper matters.

I get the impression that many NI businesses are perfectly happy with what they have now as they can trade freely with the EU.
(I wonder if NI has a shortage of tomatoes...)

I suspect that Rishi will be in trouble if he gets the new agreement through as he can only do it with the support of Labour. He'll also be in trouble if he can't, because he'll be completely at the mercy of the Brexit loons and Johnson.

I suspect the 1922 committee are looking hard at their rules...

Yammy Mon 20-Feb-23 15:02:13

He didn't stand a chance yet had the guts to take it on. He might not succeed but he has tried ,whilst a lot of other M.P.s wouldn't have taken on the poisoned chalice.
At least he'll go down in History as Britain's first coloured Prime minister at a time when most countries are calling for equality for all.

HousePlantQueen Mon 20-Feb-23 15:22:54

Just one point: the claims that the vaccination programme was a success as a result of Brexit really, really annoys me. Are we to believe that those who voted to leave the EU in June 2016 anticipated covid19 and knew that UK would be better off out? Really?

I am not a great fan of Sunak, but at least he is not an embarrassment on the world stage, doesn't consort with Russians, and pays for his own holidays. What state to be in when this is a bonus, when it should be a given.

Ramblingrose22 Mon 20-Feb-23 15:31:41

Poor BoJo - literally and figuratively.

He needs friends to give him money /loans all the time. If he's earning so much money from his speeches, what on earth is he doing with it all to need further financial support?

Even worse, he's been out of the limelight for too long and that would never do! Even if he agreed with proposals that Sunak supports he would say that he didn't just to grab a headline.

An impecunious, mendacious and narcissistic PM is the last thing this country needs. I have my doubts about Sunak but I really hope he makes some progress to repair the mess BoJo left behind and I'd love to see BoJo deprived of the Whip if he votes against the Sunak Government so make it a 3-liner Rishi!

HousePlantQueen Mon 20-Feb-23 15:55:21

I agree ramblingrose, Sunak needs to put Johnson in his place which is on the back benches, remove the whip from him if necessary. Johnson is a dangerous man and needs to be dealt with.

nadateturbe Mon 20-Feb-23 16:04:16

I get the impression that many NI businesses are perfectly happy with what they have now as they can trade freely with the EU.

Many aren't.

And can I remind people we are part of the UK.
I would rather be in the EU of course. But the UK left. The DUP have a valid complaint.

nadateturbe Mon 20-Feb-23 16:04:41

And no, not even a little bit sorry for R.

halfpint1 Mon 20-Feb-23 16:09:25

I'm still amazed that the U.K. think they can re-do this agreement, the E.U. has given enough time to Brexit and has
other more pressing concerns.

Fleurpepper Mon 20-Feb-23 16:22:41

eazybee

Sunak solving the Northern Ireland trading agreement??
At what cost?
I have no sympathy for him at all; he schemed and connived his way into being Prime Minister, through vaulting ambition, and he is way out of his depth.

Well he is not the one who has caused this massive mess. But who else do you expect to solve this???

MawtheMerrier Mon 20-Feb-23 17:07:05

Well Rishi is spot on with his comments on rewriting Dahl
“the PM agrees with the BFG that we shouldn’t gobblefunk around with words”

GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Feb-23 17:15:40

MawtheMerrier

Well Rishi is spot on with his comments on rewriting Dahl
“the PM agrees with the BFG that we shouldn’t gobblefunk around with words”

👍👏

seadragon Mon 20-Feb-23 17:18:51

Witzend

Quokka

He picked up the poisoned chalice because he wanted to be PM. Ambition. No sympathy.

Personally I admire anyone with the guts to take on the post-Boris/Truss mess, knowing very well that the Tories are almost certainly going to be wiped out at the next general election.

(Mods, please correct the OP’s title!)

Oh, I thought the spelling - (Rushi) was deliberate.....!?

Lovetopaint037 Mon 20-Feb-23 17:28:14

Ramblingrose22

Poor BoJo - literally and figuratively.

He needs friends to give him money /loans all the time. If he's earning so much money from his speeches, what on earth is he doing with it all to need further financial support?

Even worse, he's been out of the limelight for too long and that would never do! Even if he agreed with proposals that Sunak supports he would say that he didn't just to grab a headline.

An impecunious, mendacious and narcissistic PM is the last thing this country needs. I have my doubts about Sunak but I really hope he makes some progress to repair the mess BoJo left behind and I'd love to see BoJo deprived of the Whip if he votes against the Sunak Government so make it a 3-liner Rishi!

Well that saved me writing a post. Thank you.

NotSpaghetti Mon 20-Feb-23 17:48:16

Good points HousePlantQueen