The hubris of Today presenters.

MerylStreep

I blame Brexit 😂

ahahaha (funny? really? not)

FP Neil Nunes was born in Kingston, Jamaica and grew up in Manchester.
I realise that he is something of a one off though.
Interesting though.
I’m amazed that he is only 43!
He sounds much older
www.pressreader.com/jamaica/jamaica-gleaner/20151009/282415578114434

Fleurpepper

FannyCornforth

Presenters with regional accents Adrian Chiles
Steph McGovern
Huw Edwards
Alex Jones
Neil Nunnes (spelling?)
Gary Lineker
The late, great John Cole

(Just off the top of my head)

Yes, but they did not grow up as immigrants in the UK did they? A regional accent is acceptable in many settings, but not really as a political interviewer. I agree 'technique' is more important nowdays. As said, I didn't see the interview.

Having a British regional accent is very different, when 'climbing the ladder', to having a foreign one, and especially one from India or Africa.

Yes, Amol Rajan has less of an accent than many interviewers. Perhaps he's just lost any strong London accent he had along the way.
🤔 Are you trying to introduce racism where none exists?

It's his interviewing technique and his diction that has come in for criticism.
He has a SE England accent (well to me, anyway).

Why would he have an Indian accent? No more than any other child who arrived here at a young age. Like all our neighbours' children who had exactly the same London accents as my DC, although none of their parents nor we have.
They pick it up from their peers.

I think Amal can be very hard to listen to as he slurs his words together and gabbles along. I hope he doesn't mess up on University Challenge which is one of my favourite programmes.

Amol Rajan gabbles and mumbles often at the same time and Todays 8.10 am r4 interview was particularly irritating. He was shouting over Starmer and neither could be heard.
He, like me, was born abroad, but being brought up in this country means we have the local accent.
However as an anchor of what us supposed to be a prestigious political programme it is surely not asking too much for presenters to speak clearly, and he doesn't.

Amol Rajan's accent is acceptable and unremarkable, but as silverlining48 says, he gabbles and mumbles, often at the same time. That is inexcusable in a serious interviewer.

Fleurpepper

MerylStreep

I blame Brexit 😂

ahahaha (funny? really? not)

Maybe the joke got lost in translation.

Callistemon '🤔 Are you trying to introduce racism where none exists? '

NO, not at all. It is the reality that a UK regional accent is fine on today's TV, but an obvious Indian one would NOT. Can you deny this?

Fleurpepper

Callistemon '🤔 Are you trying to introduce racism where none exists? '

NO, not at all. It is the reality that a UK regional accent is fine on today's TV, but an obvious Indian one would NOT. Can you deny this?

Maybe watch more U.K. TV

There are accents from all around the world.

I watch mainly UK TV- and TV News and News programmes/debates. Give me any example of a presenter with a strong Indian accent??? Lots os Asian TV presenters (much to the real annoyance of a very Conservative relative) - but none with a distinct Asian accent.

Fleurpepper

I watch mainly UK TV- and TV News and News programmes/debates. Give me any example of a presenter with a strong Indian accent??? Lots os Asian TV presenters (much to the real annoyance of a very Conservative relative) - but none with a distinct Asian accent.

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Is that lost in translation too? Give me examples from current UK TV. Plenty of Asian reporters, interviewers, presenters, NONE with Asian accent. You will find some in soaps, and films, yes.

Fleurpepper

Callistemon '🤔 Are you trying to introduce racism where none exists? '

NO, not at all. It is the reality that a UK regional accent is fine on today's TV, but an obvious Indian one would NOT. Can you deny this?

But - I have just given an example of a man with a pronounced Jamaican accent who works for R4.

This is a bit odd really.
I know that a favourite presenter of mine, Darren Adam, who is from Aberdeen, is currently working on Icelandic radio…

Fleurpepper

Callistemon '🤔 Are you trying to introduce racism where none exists? '

NO, not at all. It is the reality that a UK regional accent is fine on today's TV, but an obvious Indian one would NOT. Can you deny this?

Can you deny this?
Yes, in this country anyway.

Not sure about the rest of Europe.

Melvyn Bragg has a posh regional accent, it is just one not heard very much. He was brought up in a pub in Wigton West Cumbria not far from where I am from. No actor can do the accent. In plays about the Lakes, they have Yorkshire or a general northern accent. The only time you hear it is on the Country file when they interview farmers.
He went to Oxford so probably lost it there, a friend of mine went to the same school and said his broad Cumbrian was going even in the 6th form.

grumppa

Amol Rajan's accent is acceptable and unremarkable, but as silverlining48 says, he gabbles and mumbles, often at the same time. That is inexcusable in a serious interviewer.

Yes, I've been saying that for a long time.

When he was BBC Media Editor I used to shout at the TV "Slow down and stop gabbling, Amol!".

Hiswordsrunintooneanother

Fleurpepper
It might be the norm in your neck of the woods but it’s not a scenario that we in the uk recognise.

MerylS I am talking about the UK and nothing but the UK.

Plenty of Asian accents on uk tv, in soaps, in films,

but please give me examples of any of the very many Asian tv presenters of every kind, who do have a strong Indian accent.

I can't hink of a single one.

Fleurpepper

Is that lost in translation too? Give me examples from current UK TV. Plenty of Asian reporters, interviewers, presenters, NONE with Asian accent. You will find some in soaps, and films, yes.

Plenty of Asian reporters, interviewers, presenters, NONE with Asian accent

Perhaps they grew up in the UK 😁

Fleurpepper
It’s not regional accents you have a beef about, is it?
It’s just Asian accents.

I'll ask our lovely Sabat Choudhury, he with the lovely voice and modulated vowels:

I was born in Bangladesh
We lived in Manchester first – I had a strong Northern accent to begin with! – before coming to the Cotswolds.
How long have you lived in the Cotswolds?
Since the age of 11. I was born in Bangladesh, where my dad was an orthopaedic surgeon and my mum was a television presenter.

Not all of the Cotswolds is posh, of course.

MerylStreep

Fleurpepper
It’s not regional accents you have a beef about, is it?
It’s just Asian accents.

As I said, it's racist.

Fleurpepper

MerylS I am talking about the UK and nothing but the UK.

Plenty of Asian accents on uk tv, in soaps, in films,

but please give me examples of any of the very many Asian tv presenters of every kind, who do have a strong Indian accent.

I can't hink of a single one.

Why don't you write to them and ask them why, Fleurpepper?

We're all agog.

I wonder if DaisyAnne is wondering what has happened to the thread she started which was nothing to do with accents but about the way Amol Rajan conducted the interview with Sir Keir Starmer?

The thread has not just gone off piste, it's gone down a crevasse. ⛷

Interestingly, though the garbled diction is annoying to me - it's his style that grates most!