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Starmer's speach this morning

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DaisyAnne Sat 25-Feb-23 09:49:25

MerylStreep

Grantanow
I read the Daily Mail but listen to all leader’s speeches.
I thought it was a good speech. He seems to be growing into his skin.

I agree with your description.

ronib Fri 24-Feb-23 12:44:04

Angela Rayner might appeal to younger people but I think she is in danger of alienating older floating voters. A pity!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 24-Feb-23 12:40:58

Did anyone else read the interview with Angela Rayner in the Sunday Times magazine? I should think Starmer was horrified. She did not come across well.

ronib Fri 24-Feb-23 12:37:55

If Angela Rayner could be persuaded to moderate her language in the House of Commons, Labour might make a half decent government. Trust in all politicians is very low unsurprisingly. Some real professionalism wouldn’t go amiss.

Galaxy Fri 24-Feb-23 10:53:42

Yes I think I misjudged him, I supported him but didnt think he would become PM (something which is looking more likely) I thought he would rather play a Kinnock type of role in the party. I possibly had underestimated the ineptitude of the government, which has certainly helped him.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-Feb-23 10:37:06

I suspect that one reason that Labour is not publishing its plans in full is because it wants to retain focus on the government gaffs and incompetencies, which appear at the rate of at least one a day.

Yesterdays example of “let them eat turnips” and the abysmal performace by Theresa Coffey at the farmers conference, leading one farmer to announce to the conference that her performance smacked of “yes minister” to huge applause.

The drip, drip, drip of all these gaffs is ensuring a continual large lead in the polls by Labour, which suits them just fine.

Consider the position that Labour was in at the last election!

No one could have done better than Starmer imo.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-Feb-23 07:29:53

One thing Starmer said that reform of parliament is needed. So it would be good to see the sovereignty of parliament reinforced.

ronib Fri 24-Feb-23 07:24:43

I am beginning to ask why we have a parliamentary system which seems to give so much political power to one person. After Boris Johnson’s term as pm, I would like to see more checks and balances on all future supposed leaders. One person leading 69 million into yet another cul de sac isn’t my idea of good governance.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-Feb-23 07:14:46

Starmer certainly has substance - no question. allsorts

The 5 soundbites however are just that at the moment and imo we need to see how he intends to carry out the 5 missions to success.

I don’t expect to see deeper analyses of the way forward until nearer the election.

Allsorts Fri 24-Feb-23 07:06:10

Think he's a decent man and he does look confident, he has no substance or the ump heeded to run the country. The comments made by Tory MP was quite upsetting for the majority of hardworking Brits, hwever there are plenty of jobs and a lot lof healthy people that won't work, like a man by me, quite proud of the fact too.

vegansrock Fri 24-Feb-23 06:34:21

He’s just got to stay looking competent, as the Tories are handing him an open goal with their mismanagement over the last 6 years.

vegansrock Fri 24-Feb-23 06:21:54

He’s not the most charismatic or inspirational leader, but I think after the last 4 Tory leaders a bit of boring, but sincere and capable leadership may be a relief.

Oreo Thu 23-Feb-23 21:39:10

eazybee

He was described as looking like a disappointed ice-cream, but that was yesterday.

😂
That’s cos he seems to have no neck, his head rests on top of his collar and tie like a blob of ice cream on a cone.
I think he’s a decent sort of politician but that may not mean he’ll be a good PM, but after the last lot in power he can’t be much worse.

Fleurpepper Thu 23-Feb-23 18:01:44

I wish she'd get on a bike, with a turnip stuck where the sun don't shine!

Casdon Thu 23-Feb-23 17:59:13

Meanwhile in Tory Britain the Queen of Turnips strikes again.
Todays faux pas number two:
“We know that one of the best ways for people to boost their income is not only to get into work if they are not in work already, but to work more hours or get upskilled to get a higher income."
Honestly, if she had a brain she’d be dangerous. Call Starmer what you like, but he has got a brain, thankfully.

eazybee Thu 23-Feb-23 17:51:17

He was described as looking like a disappointed ice-cream, but that was yesterday.

Smileless2012 Thu 23-Feb-23 17:02:36

My feelings too GSM no real substance.

Casdon Thu 23-Feb-23 16:47:39

Germanshepherdsmum

He’s good at saying what people want to hear. Whether and how he could make good on the rhetoric is another matter.

Who does that remind you of?

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 23-Feb-23 16:11:20

He’s good at saying what people want to hear. Whether and how he could make good on the rhetoric is another matter.

MerylStreep Thu 23-Feb-23 16:07:09

Grantanow
I read the Daily Mail but listen to all leader’s speeches.
I thought it was a good speech. He seems to be growing into his skin.

Grantanow Thu 23-Feb-23 15:55:30

Good to set out mission aims without elaborating on methods or policies that could be stolen by the Tories. Usual attacks by Corbynists and Daily Wailists to be expected and shrugged off.

DaisyAnne Thu 23-Feb-23 13:07:45

You can see it here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5rQGQ3QRTY

I found the question and answer session at the end as interesting as the speech. There were the usual silly questions from the Tory client newspapers and some TV channels, but most elicited an answer which made me feel that Starmer knows his subject. It's been a while since I heard that.

Now to listen again slowly or find the text to work out if I agree with what he seems to understand smile