Starmer's speach this morning

Good to set out mission aims without elaborating on methods or policies that could be stolen by the Tories. Usual attacks by Corbynists and Daily Wailists to be expected and shrugged off.

Grantanow
I read the Daily Mail but listen to all leader’s speeches.
I thought it was a good speech. He seems to be growing into his skin.

He’s good at saying what people want to hear. Whether and how he could make good on the rhetoric is another matter.

Germanshepherdsmum

He’s good at saying what people want to hear. Whether and how he could make good on the rhetoric is another matter.

Who does that remind you of?

My feelings too GSM no real substance.

He was described as looking like a disappointed ice-cream, but that was yesterday.

Meanwhile in Tory Britain the Queen of Turnips strikes again.
Todays faux pas number two:
“We know that one of the best ways for people to boost their income is not only to get into work if they are not in work already, but to work more hours or get upskilled to get a higher income."
Honestly, if she had a brain she’d be dangerous. Call Starmer what you like, but he has got a brain, thankfully.

I wish she'd get on a bike, with a turnip stuck where the sun don't shine!

eazybee

He was described as looking like a disappointed ice-cream, but that was yesterday.

😂
That’s cos he seems to have no neck, his head rests on top of his collar and tie like a blob of ice cream on a cone.
I think he’s a decent sort of politician but that may not mean he’ll be a good PM, but after the last lot in power he can’t be much worse.

He’s not the most charismatic or inspirational leader, but I think after the last 4 Tory leaders a bit of boring, but sincere and capable leadership may be a relief.

He’s just got to stay looking competent, as the Tories are handing him an open goal with their mismanagement over the last 6 years.

Think he's a decent man and he does look confident, he has no substance or the ump heeded to run the country. The comments made by Tory MP was quite upsetting for the majority of hardworking Brits, hwever there are plenty of jobs and a lot lof healthy people that won't work, like a man by me, quite proud of the fact too.

Starmer certainly has substance - no question. allsorts

The 5 soundbites however are just that at the moment and imo we need to see how he intends to carry out the 5 missions to success.

I don’t expect to see deeper analyses of the way forward until nearer the election.

I am beginning to ask why we have a parliamentary system which seems to give so much political power to one person. After Boris Johnson’s term as pm, I would like to see more checks and balances on all future supposed leaders. One person leading 69 million into yet another cul de sac isn’t my idea of good governance.

One thing Starmer said that reform of parliament is needed. So it would be good to see the sovereignty of parliament reinforced.

I suspect that one reason that Labour is not publishing its plans in full is because it wants to retain focus on the government gaffs and incompetencies, which appear at the rate of at least one a day.

Yesterdays example of “let them eat turnips” and the abysmal performace by Theresa Coffey at the farmers conference, leading one farmer to announce to the conference that her performance smacked of “yes minister” to huge applause.

The drip, drip, drip of all these gaffs is ensuring a continual large lead in the polls by Labour, which suits them just fine.

Consider the position that Labour was in at the last election!

No one could have done better than Starmer imo.

Yes I think I misjudged him, I supported him but didnt think he would become PM (something which is looking more likely) I thought he would rather play a Kinnock type of role in the party. I possibly had underestimated the ineptitude of the government, which has certainly helped him.

If Angela Rayner could be persuaded to moderate her language in the House of Commons, Labour might make a half decent government. Trust in all politicians is very low unsurprisingly. Some real professionalism wouldn’t go amiss.

Did anyone else read the interview with Angela Rayner in the Sunday Times magazine? I should think Starmer was horrified. She did not come across well.

Angela Rayner might appeal to younger people but I think she is in danger of alienating older floating voters. A pity!

MerylStreep

Grantanow
I read the Daily Mail but listen to all leader’s speeches.
I thought it was a good speech. He seems to be growing into his skin.

I agree with your description.

Germanshepherdsmum

He’s good at saying what people want to hear. Whether and how he could make good on the rhetoric is another matter.

I would have thought that all politicians put their proposals over in a way people want to hear them. Wouldn't it be odd if they didn't?

I felt very comfortable with the areas he had picked for his "missions". So, which of them did you disagree with when you listened to the speech? Is the Conservative idea of making the wealthy have even more of the nation's wealth one that you think more would agree with? Or is "We are still trying to get Brexit done" the one that grabs you?

Smileless2012

My feelings too GSM no real substance.

So, what I have heard described as the Tories' way of adopting policies is "a clique of like-minded people bouncing ideas off each other's empty skulls". Seeing what we have had as "policies" for the last 13 years, I would guess this is not an unreasonable description.

Starmer and his Labour Party decided to talk to the people whose votes would get them into government. That is, I would have thought, what any political party would do if they had half a brain between them. And what have they come up with, as they see it, to fix the fundamental problems facing Britain and give the UK the confidence to move forward as a country?

Missions
Secure the highest sustained growth in the G7, with good jobs and productivity growth in every part of the country, making everyone, not just a few, better off.

Make Britain a clean energy superpower to create jobs, cut bills and boost energy security with zero-carbon electricity by 2030, accelerating to net zero.

Build an NHS fit for the future by reforming health and care services to speed up treatment, harnessing life sciences and technology to reduce preventable illness and cutting health inequalities.

Make Britain's streets safe by reforming the police and justice system to prevent crime, tackle violence against women and stop criminals from getting away without punishment.

Break down the barriers to opportunity at every stage, for every child, by reforming the childcare and education systems, raising standards everywhere, and preparing young people for work and life.

So, those of you who have, so far, only spoken from your bias, which of those don't you like?

Trouble is they will inherit a broken economy , low productivity, low growth, huge debts, not an easy place to rebuild our decimated public services.