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Camilla - Queen Consort surely?

(49 Posts)
Kate54 Sat 25-Feb-23 11:17:02

Twice this week while in the newsagent’s, I noticed that the Daily Express has taken to referring to Camilla as The Queen, both in a front page headline and a news story.
Surely this is incorrect? I understood the title could only be used with a female born ‘into’ the role as it were.

Grantanow Tue 28-Feb-23 09:12:02

In my lifetime the Queen Consort was generally referred to as the Queen. QC is accurate in the case of non-regnal Q's but it has always been dropped in the past.

Chardy Tue 28-Feb-23 07:00:54

When George 5th died, his wife was referred to as Queen Mary and the wife of George 6th Queen Elizabeth. As George 6th died before his mother, Queen Mary was still Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth became QEQM and eventually QE2 became The Queen.

IrishDancing Mon 27-Feb-23 22:34:13

I like the name Camilla (and I like her) but I think I’ll find it hard not to think of Queen Elizabeth II when somebody says “the Queen”.

Callistemon21 Mon 27-Feb-23 15:26:45

😁

Actually, one uses her middle name, not very queenly at all!

HousePlantQueen Mon 27-Feb-23 15:23:03

Mollygo

Callistemon21

I was canny and picked suitable names for my DD just in case they married a King 😁

grin Me too.

I picked my children's names with consideration of how it would sound if they were introduced as BBC Foreign Correspondent.

Mollygo Mon 27-Feb-23 01:36:27

Callistemon21

I was canny and picked suitable names for my DD just in case they married a King 😁

grin Me too.

Callistemon21 Sun 26-Feb-23 23:44:56

I was canny and picked suitable names for my DD just in case they married a King 😁

Callistemon21 Sun 26-Feb-23 23:43:42

Not all Kings or Queens use their first names, but her second name is Rosemary. Whilst it's a nice name, Queen Camilla sounds better than Queen Rosemary.

Grandma70s Sun 26-Feb-23 23:38:42

Yes, Camilla is an older name than I realised - but it’s still not traditional in the Royal Family. I recall seeing the Queen (QE2) showing some old paintings of her ancestors to a visiting VIP, and saying that the names didn’t change much - Georges, Edwards, Annes, Elizabeths. I think the name Victoria was a new one at the time, though.

However, you are right - traditions have to start somewhere.

Callistemon21 Sun 26-Feb-23 23:26:22

Oh - Eve?

Callistemon21 Sun 26-Feb-23 23:26:07

Grandma70s

Camilla is a very un-queenlike name. Not traditional enough.

You don't get much older than Camilla for a name!

Callistemon21 Sun 26-Feb-23 23:25:05

Casdon

Grandma70s

Camilla is a very un-queenlike name. Not traditional enough.

I thought it was a Roman name, so pretty traditional - as was Diana.

Yes, she was Roman, daughter of a King. I read some of Virgil's Aeneid many moons ago, starring Camilla the warrior.

Ironically, she was a favourite of the goddess Diana.

Casdon Sun 26-Feb-23 23:16:01

Grandma70s

Camilla is a very un-queenlike name. Not traditional enough.

I thought it was a Roman name, so pretty traditional - as was Diana.

Mollygo Sun 26-Feb-23 22:37:27

Grandma70s

Camilla is a very un-queenlike name. Not traditional enough.

🤣🤣🤣 sorry but that’s so funny.
Camilla is just as good as any other name.
Every tradition has to start somewhere.

Grandma70s Sun 26-Feb-23 21:41:03

Camilla is a very un-queenlike name. Not traditional enough.

Floradora9 Sun 26-Feb-23 21:25:25

I read in the paper to-day after the coronation the consort bit will be dropped.

Mollygo Sun 26-Feb-23 09:41:01

She’ll be Queen Consort, but known as Queen Camilla. No problem with that. Besides, it will be fun to watch all the sniping about it.

Anniebach Sun 26-Feb-23 08:44:31

All non reigning queens are Queen consorts, when George 6
died we had queen Mary, queen Elizabeth and Queen Elizabeth 2nd.

Pittcity Sun 26-Feb-23 08:20:55

She'll always be Camilla to me.

BlueBelle Sun 26-Feb-23 08:17:20

This is (to me) so nit picking
King and Queen just a way by some to ‘put her in her place’ or so it seems

MawtheMerrier Sun 26-Feb-23 08:05:09

What a coincidence!
In todays DT
BUCKINGHAM Palace may soon move to officially describe Camilla as Queen, rather than Queen Consort
Royal aides are considering introducing the change after King Charles’s Coronation in May.
Queen Elizabeth II last February expressed her “sincere wish” that her daughter-in-law be known as Queen Consort when Charles became King
Last week, Camilla launched the Queen’s Reading Room – with no mention of “Consort” – when she updated the name of her charity, the Duchess of Cornwall’s Reading Room
It is likely that the Court Circular – the official register of royal engagements – will soon reflect the change .
Palace officials have been reportedly looking at precedent, including the titles used for the wife of George VI, Charles’s grandfather. As a non-reigning Queen, she was technically Queen Consort to George VI but was known in public simply as Queen Elizabeth

merlotgran Sat 25-Feb-23 18:14:55

This is a way of 'sliding' her in as queen

She is Queen. She’s married to the King.

lemsip Sat 25-Feb-23 18:14:24

Queen Consort Camilla Was Reportedly “Shocked and Dismayed” About the New Roald Dahl Editions.

Revealed: Camilla will officially be known as the Queen rather than 'Queen Consort' after King Charles coronation

Anniebach Sat 25-Feb-23 18:00:39

The Queen mother was called Queen not Queen consort

lemsip Sat 25-Feb-23 17:53:19

I was shocked to see this headline. It should be Queen Consort! I thought of the queen who hasn't long been dead.

This is a way of 'sliding' her in as queen.