Sunak has used a lot of Political Credit on sorting out the Northern Ireland Protocol deal ...

I’m just listening to Sunak talking about all of the trade problems that brexit was causing in Northern Ireland that have now been resolved. But we all said they would happen and it was ignored: I think they said in the news that during the referendum debate only 1% of time was devoted to N Ireland. And when we did raise the subject it was branded as project fear. So all he’s done is resolve a problem of his own creation. Why can’t the electorate see that? I’m pleased that we can now move forward but, in all honesty, it should never have happened in the first place

O’Brian reminding us of Sunak’ s rhetoric that “NI is is such a good place now as it has access to both the single market and the U.K. market, and will be brilliantly place to attract inward investment”

Can we think of anywhere else that was in this position just a few years ago?

Sunak explaining why we should have stayed in the EU. I heard Baker making the same point last night…

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Don’t get me wrong though. Sunak - a strong Brexiter is only clearing up the mess of his making.

The U.K. has still no identified benefit from leaving the EU. and will continue to decline unless it is reversed by much closer alignment.

Politics aside, I think Sunak must have worked very hard to achieve this. He seems to have gone about it in the right way. Gone are the days of swanning about the land(s) playing the fool. I'm thinking the Tories will have high hopes for him, without the dramas.
And I am one step closer to transporting my dog across the Channel.

Whitewavemark2

I think that Sunak must be prepared to face down both sets - if he does so he will undoubtedly put the Tory party onto a better footing, because the populists will be gone and with luck politics will normalise.

Totally agree Whitewavemark2

I think that Sunak must be prepared to face down both sets - if he does so he will undoubtedly put the Tory party onto a better footing, because the populists will be gone and with luck politics will normalise.

vegansrock

So now supermarkets in NI can have the same things on the shelves as the rest of the U.K. - that’s nothing then.

I suggest you change your supermarket.

MayBee70

The ERG will imo go along with it because all that matters to them is that their party has a chance of winning the next election.

Yes you are probably right, which maybe indicate that Johnson has given up the fight, although his support base is wider than the ERG.

The DUP then……….?

The ERG will imo go along with it because all that matters to them is that their party has a chance of winning the next election.

Well the Windsor Agreement - Sunak’s big gamble.

The question is - will the DUP and the ERG get on board, or will they shred Sunak, just as they have done previous prime ministers?

Sunak knows almost certainly that if he takes the Agreement to a vote it will go through, as Labour are assisting Sunak in this gamble, but there appears to have been little schmoozing done by Sunak towards the two protagonists, and this may be the biggest bit of the gamble - Sunak has done the detail, but not the politics.

The DUP know that in the final analysis that they cannot rely on people like Johnson or Mogg because however much Johnson claims to be supporting the DUP etc. he will happily throw them under the bus if it suits his game, just as he did in the protocol.

So as I have said - this week is going to be interesting. Will the DUP accept that it is the best they can get? Will the ERG decide that they have little support in the country and call it a day?
Or will they fight Sunak tooth and nail and decide that this is the last stand and the hill that they will die on?

So now supermarkets in NI can have the same things on the shelves as the rest of the U.K. - that’s nothing then.

Don’t forget that Sunak was an enthusiastic supporter of Johnsons oven ready deal. Johnson nowhere to be seen in the HoC, perhaps he had an after dinner speech to make. It’s good that Sunak is making efforts to ditch all the poison created by the hard line Brexit supporters. Maybe he’ll now offer the nurses a decent pay rise.

Urmstongran

We will have to agree to disagree IrishDancing.
I assume (maybe incorrectly) that you are in the RoI? If you are, it figures - in my opinion.
Somerset are delighted with Rees Mogg as their constituency MP.
I find him knowledgable and interesting in equal proportion.
He educates on matters of historical Parliamentary protocol in an informative and amusing way and maybe some think him ‘smug’ but could that be because he never gets ruffled, is unfailingly polite and can quote chapter and verse on parliamentary rules and history. It’s very educational in a good way to listen to him, I think.

And he uses that eloquence by filibustering to stop laws going through parliament that would benefit the poor and underprivileged. Vile man.

If Sunak pulls it off he will justifiably gain considerable political credit. Most Tory MPs (not the headbangers) had a spring in their step today and Starmer needs to keep up his public utterances otherwise we might get another 5 years of the drongos.

..but this is my abiding impression of Rees Mogg

he may be bright but he has no idea of how ordinary people are suffering atm

I think it will do Wyllow
The EU obvs feel they can work with Sunak and both sides feel the time’s right for better relations and co-operation now.
I think the situation in Ukraine has made European countries feel closer.

The real test is whether the DUP will get together with other parties and Stormont starts to work.

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Sunak is being dubbed ‘Sellout Sunak’ .." really, Urms? He might be patching something together, but one has to be practical and its probably as good as he can get for now - as long as the DUP step down from their position. I think that this will just make the DUP more unpopular, because most people in NI I am sure just want everyday things to work better.

Of course in practical terms we'll just have to see if this green and red lanes work - there is a lot of room for corruption in those deals.

If it leads to better relationships between ourselves and the EU so much the better.

It looks as if your fan base has expanded by one, Urmstongran 😂

I am from a humble background HPQ. Old Trafford. Ever been? It’s up the road from Urmston. An eye opener for some on here.
“Don’t teach your grandmother to suck eggs” comes to mind.
Sorry.
I just feel that way tonight.

Given Steve Baker was one of the negotiating team, it would be embarrassing if he didn’t support the new framework.

I wonder where you get the idea that my family are middle class, Urms? It’s far from true.

And I’m afraid the stats show that the economic shocks from Brexit are, as all economic shocks do, impacting disproportionately on the poorest (not counting my kids in that category, thankfully).

We will have to agree to disagree IrishDancing.
I assume (maybe incorrectly) that you are in the RoI? If you are, it figures - in my opinion.
Somerset are delighted with Rees Mogg as their constituency MP.
I find him knowledgable and interesting in equal proportion.
He educates on matters of historical Parliamentary protocol in an informative and amusing way and maybe some think him ‘smug’ but could that be because he never gets ruffled, is unfailingly polite and can quote chapter and verse on parliamentary rules and history. It’s very educational in a good way to listen to him, I think.

Being personal there HousePlantQueen
No need, just no need.

Whitewavemark2

Cut off your nose to spite your face. -

Indeed. I am too tired to bother to word a reply to the "ever so 'umble" Urmstongran, as she listens to a fake posho and a thug.

Well said Oreo.