Drag Act and Bondage Act for a babies and toddlers to enjoy?

Hardly something that should be encouraged is it?

cabaret, drinks and dancing — but one you can bring your baby to and still be home for bedtime.”
So drink in the afternoon, park your baby on/under the table while you dance, to music in an environment that is far too noisy for any caring parent, to subject a baby’s ears to, and watch stuff unsuitable for babies.
Yep! I can quite see why some posters approve of it and some people use their moral code to justify it.

The organisers describe it as “a little slice of afternoon delight”, adding: “There’s only so many times you can listen to the f***ing Wheels On The Bus"

“I honestly don’t understand why anyone would go and see this with a child, or even offer it up as entertainment outside of a nightclub.”
A Mumsnetter

“We wanted to give parents the experience of a ‘big London night out’ — cabaret, drinks and dancing — but one you can bring your baby to and still be home for bedtime.”
The Organisers

Drinking too, in the afternoon when in charge of babies?

If anyone wants to go to see that type of show and drink, fair enough, but get a babysitter!

It's not an age thing, I cannot imagine any of the younger mums in my family or any whom I know wanting to take an infant to that kind of show.

This really should not be allowed, are there not rules and regulations regarding performances were there under age children? I question the moral code of all those who took part, organisers, performers and audience, (and anyone on here who considers it acceptable) severely lacking.

Callistemon21

^a free event through poverty^

£25 a ticket.

That is shocking. When you think what much healthier things you could do with your baby for £25.

Babies minds are like sponges and they take in a lot from their surroundings. A day at the park or beach would be preferable to watching men cavorting about in front of them.

oh dammit, they've changed the photo!

I did think the photo they used of the pub was inappropriate, presumably all those police officers didn't turn up to this?

a free event through poverty

£25 a ticket.

I don't think having a moral code is anything to do with age.

VioletSky

I'm just not a judgemental person

You just judged all those who disagree with you here by writing that 'I'm just not a judgemental person'
You also have no discernment if you view that sexualised display as innocent and suitable for children.
This is child abuse. But your attitude is scary as you condone this child abuse.

Experiencednotold
- why take everything so personally?
That’s funny from someone who, by that response, is taking something personally.
Your moral code is your business-if you keep it that way.

A very constructive addition to the discussion - not.

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Callistemon21 - why take everything so personally. I was stating that at 64, my moral code is likely (note likely) to be a little different that the younger mums attending. Maybe, maybe not, that was a suggestion, not fact, so please, stop the confrontation.
Twenty five plus years ago I would have taken my children. But perhaps the mothers in that room were swayed by needing to be part of a group enjoying themselves at (I suppose) a free event through poverty, isolation, abuse, whatever - and went with it.
Try and look at what someone’s motivators might be, rather than keep offering damnation.

We wuz tilling the fields, bringing the cattle in and going down the mines where I come from.

Callistemon21

How did I miss it for all those years?

It must have originated in Lancashire or Yorkshire too.

I think it did Callistemon. My grannie was out of school and in t’ mill by 12 or 13 but she did wind the bobbin up with us

We grew up singing ‘wind the bobbin up’, often led by grannie who had been a mill worker, so knew a thing or two about bobbins. We sang nursery rhymes, most involving actions like Insy wincy spider, Humpty Dumpty, grand old Duke of York and more.
We are all more aware of grooming, of the ways in which peadophiles find work that brings them into contact with children, or find ways to charm and groom their parents. If watching men in peculiar, sexualised clothing floats your boat, go see them. Don’t take your infants with you. Those first 5 years of life are key developmental stages. Find entertainment that encourages secure attachments, you know, like singing, clapping whilst making eye contact with your totally dependant infant

How did I miss it for all those years?

It must have originated in Lancashire or Yorkshire too.

My baby grandchild is learning to wind the bobbin up at Baby Sensory. It is still popular.

Callistemon21
Wind the bobbin up. You brought back some lovely memories of being in primary school and partner- dancing to that. We didn’t have the point to the ceiling bit back then, just linked arms and skipped round for 8 beats, then back for 8 beats.
Point to the ceiling came with my DC and DGC’s time.

I had never heard it until I took the DGC along to the music and movement groups for toddlers.

Callistemon21 our AC sang that song and it’s still sang at our youngest two GCs preschool.

Urmstongran

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One we sang and did the actions to when I took my little DGC to music groups:

Wind the bobbin up,
Wind the bobbin up,
Pull, pull, clap, clap, clap.
Wind it back again,
Wind it back again,
Pull, pull, clap, clap, clap,
Point to the ceiling - look at that funny man!
Point to the floor,
Point to the window,
Point to the door,
Clap your hands together, 1, 2, 3,
Put your hands upon your knee.

Or, as DC used to sing 'Wind the parents up'

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What happened to the mothers & toddler groups of olden days?

If you're happy and you know it clap your hands!