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Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Mar-23 08:49:31

Tesco Chairman on QT said that he had seen Labours plans and policies that they will enact if they win the election, and said he is impressed with the detail and soundness, including child care plans and policies which the Tories have tried to copy but it was “back of a fag packet” stuff and nothing concrete underlying the headlines.

We have to be patient and wait until nearer the election, to read what these policies are, as it is clear from the Tories that they will try to copy so much of labours plans as they have completely run out ideas.

Tesco chairman would give labour his vote.

fancythat Sat 18-Mar-23 10:33:05

I am expecting some scandal or other to be in the media, a few days before the election. To try and scupper things for a party or person.

Or/and someone says something really stupid, again, somewhat scuppering things.

Grantanow Sat 18-Mar-23 10:28:18

After the disasterous periods of four previous Tory PMs Sunak is positioning the Tories to win the next GE. I think it's a problem to overcome public perceptions of incompetence, etc., so I think he has an uphill struggle and that Labour will win but perhaps with an inadequate majority.

DaisyAnne Fri 17-Mar-23 16:25:14

MaizieD

I have to admit that I'm rather apprehensive about Labour appealing to big business. How are they going to reconcile the demands of big businesses and the needs and wellbeing of the people who work in them.

I have no problem with Labour working with SMEs; these are the backbone of our economy, are massively run by skilled 'working class' (I struggle to find a suitable replacement for that term in this context) tradespeople or enterprising individuals who need protection against 'big business' and local economies that are suited to their needs and those of the people they serve. I don't think that the tories have had much regard for them over the years.

That's what happens if you sit nearer to the centre, Maizie; you can do good things (over time) for all. As long as people don't think things will happen overnight, the first five years could/should be okay. I would want to know the hard left are fully suppressed, as would business, I imagine.

fancythat Fri 17-Mar-23 15:54:22

www.retail-insight-network.com/news/tesco-revenue-h1-2023/

fancythat Fri 17-Mar-23 15:52:04

Are the people at the top of Tes co seen to be doing a good job themselves?
Just going by my local town, but Tesco seem to have lost a huge amount of business in the last year or so, to other supermarkets in town.

Personally, I am always wary of people cheerleading for others, when their own business, well to an outsider, may look ropey.

Oreo Fri 17-Mar-23 15:50:31

GrannyGravy13

I wouldn’t expect anything else, they are not likely to say we do not have a plan and are not ready…

Haha😄
The Tesco Chairman is obvs a fan of Labour.Personally I don’t have any interest in what he has to say.
I hope that Labour does have some good policies but will have to wait to hear them.

Ilovecheese Fri 17-Mar-23 15:44:00

I am not sure that all the highly paid are as needy / greedy whatever the reason that they can only value themselves by amassing more money than they could ever spend. I expect some of them enjoy their job and their community and know that hey are very lucky, and would not therefore, stomp off in a huff if they were not paid quite so much.
I also agree with MaizieD that they are not indispensable, nobody is, they could be replaced.

It always seems as if richer people need to be offered more in order to do a job, whereas poorer people are seen as having to be made even poorer as their incentive to work.

As for the Forde report, if it had said what Keir Starmer wanted it to say, he would be shouting it from the rooftops. It did not, therefore no more will be heard about it in the mainstream media.

Grany Fri 17-Mar-23 14:20:43

How about the hierarchy of racism that Forde highlighted in his report, and yesterday said you'd ignored?

How about the BBC pressuring him to remove parts critical of the Panorama hitjob (that featured people you paid off with members donations)?

Forde has spoken on YouTube that over 100 of his recommendations KS did not implement nor speak to Forde.

KS is not liked
In recent Saventa poll who would make best PM RS 38 KS 37

MaizieD Fri 17-Mar-23 14:20:43

Germanshepherdsmum

Exactly GG. Thank you. I’m surprised Maizie had to ask the question.

The answer was what I expected. TBH, I thought that there might be a more compelling reason.

I don't for one moment think that the 'people at the top' are the only ones in the world who are capable of doing the job; they'd be welcome to go elsewhere.

What is interesting is that 'shareholders' usually nod through the remuneration packages. As I suspect that the greater number of them are financial institutions of one sort or another, I should think they are perfectly happy with big pay packages. as that is what their higher management expect for themselves.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Mar-23 13:27:47

FoghornLeghorn

They all have wonderful plans until they’re elected and called upon to enact them. It’s very easy to say what they think people want to hear in order to get elected.

Better than having no plans which is apparently where the Tories are at.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Mar-23 13:27:08

Germanshepherdsmum

No, I am not. My comment was in reply to another poster who seemed to suggest it might be. I have no idea what Labour policies on anything are.

Thank you - it wasn’t clear from your posts to me.

FoghornLeghorn Fri 17-Mar-23 13:24:47

They all have wonderful plans until they’re elected and called upon to enact them. It’s very easy to say what they think people want to hear in order to get elected.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-Mar-23 13:17:37

No, I am not. My comment was in reply to another poster who seemed to suggest it might be. I have no idea what Labour policies on anything are.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Mar-23 13:14:52

Germanshepherdsmum

Businesses of all sizes were given assistance in the budget and taxation was simplified for SMEs.

Any attempt at limiting salaries in business would be disastrous. Salaries of the likes of the Tesco CEO and chairman are already subject to approval by a remuneration committee and shareholders also have a big say.

So you are not saying that limiting salaries in business is Labour policy?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-Mar-23 12:51:35

By no means all high earners live in London. Many even commute from abroad. But you have to pay for talent.

Ilovecheese Fri 17-Mar-23 12:46:55

Do we think that all high earners are solely motivated by the money though? Living in vibrant London with their families, they might not wish to uproot their children from their schools or their partners from their jobs.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-Mar-23 12:37:17

My post was in reply to Callistemon @ 10.16.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Mar-23 11:38:30

Germanshepherdsmum

Businesses of all sizes were given assistance in the budget and taxation was simplified for SMEs.

Any attempt at limiting salaries in business would be disastrous. Salaries of the likes of the Tesco CEO and chairman are already subject to approval by a remuneration committee and shareholders also have a big say.

Who says that is labour policy?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-Mar-23 11:22:33

Exactly GG. Thank you. I’m surprised Maizie had to ask the question.

Lovetopaint037 Fri 17-Mar-23 11:13:12

Whitewavemark2

Tesco Chairman on QT said that he had seen Labours plans and policies that they will enact if they win the election, and said he is impressed with the detail and soundness, including child care plans and policies which the Tories have tried to copy but it was “back of a fag packet” stuff and nothing concrete underlying the headlines.

We have to be patient and wait until nearer the election, to read what these policies are, as it is clear from the Tories that they will try to copy so much of labours plans as they have completely run out ideas.

Tesco chairman would give labour his vote.

This is spot on.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 17-Mar-23 11:09:38

MaizieD

^Any attempt at limiting salaries in business would be disastrous.^

Dare I ask why?

I would hazard a guess that if salaries are limited in the UK that people at the top would move elsewhere.

Market forces determine private sector salaries, not Governments.

MaizieD Fri 17-Mar-23 10:58:12

Any attempt at limiting salaries in business would be disastrous.

Dare I ask why?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-Mar-23 10:41:35

Businesses of all sizes were given assistance in the budget and taxation was simplified for SMEs.

Any attempt at limiting salaries in business would be disastrous. Salaries of the likes of the Tesco CEO and chairman are already subject to approval by a remuneration committee and shareholders also have a big say.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Mar-23 10:39:59

In a way it shows how bloody desperate it has got for business to be turning away from the Tories😄

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Mar-23 10:38:45

MaizieD

Ilovecheese

He has nothing to fear from Starmer's party. Very similar to the Tories, just not quite as much incompetence.

This is it, Ilovecheese.

I don't know if you are correct or if Labour is being determinedly centrist in order to stave off the right wing media and will become more leftish once they get into power.

Labour needs all the support it can get, and we need to get rid of the Tories.