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King Charles’ Coronation: Yay, Nay or Meh? 👑

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FannyCornforth Sat 08-Apr-23 12:22:28

Hello 👋
Just that. A straw poll.
It would be interesting to see the lay of the land with this.
See how it goes…

nadateturbe Sat 06-May-23 14:05:38

it’s what makes us special

Really, we're special?

Mollygo Sat 06-May-23 15:35:08

It’s this right to protest thing that’s causing the problem.
No one’s right to protest is any more important than any other, but all protesters would disagree with that.

Allsorts Sat 06-May-23 20:02:11

Why do these embittered people think they have the right to try and spoil the Coronation for millions. I much prefer tge monarchy to any prime minister we have had, each with their own agenda.
Loved the music in particular and the whole spectacle. .Charles is a kind man and takes his duties seriously. He works hard for this country, in particular his work with young people, many have had lives turned round by him./Our armed services were as expected impeccable and went like clockwork.
Let the usual whinge away.

Grany Sat 06-May-23 21:40:22

14 hours in, our team is still being held in custody.
Didn't even start to protest from 7am this morning arrested and placards seized Is this democracy

Mollygo Sat 06-May-23 22:00:53

Grany

14 hours in, our team is still being held in custody.
Didn't even start to protest from 7am this morning arrested and placards seized Is this democracy

That’s your version of events.
We don’t know why they were arrested. There were other protesters around, shown on TV.

Grany Sat 06-May-23 22:41:03

The Republic team at 7am were arrested, videos shown at time of their arrest, police would not say why they were arresting them, placards seized before they could peacefully protest, Republic had liaised with the police months before and up to just before the Coronation the police said they could protest. Police went back on their word. This team of Republicans are not hooligans.

nadateturbe Sat 06-May-23 22:51:02

That's how it was reported on BBC news. (Granys post)

nadateturbe Sat 06-May-23 22:55:10

I see. Embittered whingers, if you don't agree with monarchists.

FannyCornforth Sun 07-May-23 03:21:46

nadateturbe

I see. Embittered whingers, if you don't agree with monarchists.

Exactly. I thoroughly enjoyed the Coronation but I’m totally behind the peaceful protesters.
We should all be worried about losing our rights.
This is really important stuff

Mollygo Sun 07-May-23 05:35:45

Grany
That’s your version of events.
We don’t know why they were arrested. There were other protesters around, shown on TV.

FannyCornforth Sun 07-May-23 05:42:35

I think the idea to scare the horses with rape alarms was absolutely atrocious.
Was that really a plan or fake news?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-May-23 05:44:53

I do feel extremely uncomfortable about the way the police behaved yesterday, and see that so do many members of parliament.

It simply isn’t British.

I suspect that the King would agree and would be more than able to deal with people who disagree with a constitutional monarchy.

It will not be too long before this bill is watered down, particularly as Braverman’s star is waning.

Aveline Sun 07-May-23 06:36:03

This was more than a few embittered whingers. Police confiscated huge numbers of placards and attachment devices. This was planned to cause large scale disruption and upset for the hordes of happy people celebrating.
Don't like the king? Fine don't go.

absent Sun 07-May-23 06:38:25

I do get a bit tired of people posting "Imagine having President Blair/Corbyn [insert name of disliked PM]". If a President were to replace the monarch as Head of State, it would not have to be on the American model. Indeed, in the light of some Presidents of the USA during my lifetime, such as Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Bush and Trump, it would probably be disastrous.

There are Republican European states where the President has little if any political power, but does the charming, the chatting, the wining and dining with leaders of other countries – not unlike the monarch as Head of State, but almost certainly less expensive (no coronation for a start) and who can be voted out of office if she/he oversteps the mark.

Allsorts Sun 07-May-23 06:49:15

I saw the protestors , a loud baying, scruffy mob. Frightening for the children, and thise oeopkexwhontravelked miles to be there to watch the procession, the same lot that threw the statues into the docks no doubt, almost professional protestors. We have a monarchy,get over it, better than President Corbyn. These people should be made to pay for the damage and the extra policing, stop the benefits, too much time on their hands and I don't want to fund them. Pity they couldn't be locked up longer. They ruin the lives of people, making our streets not safe for law abiding people.
So Grany I do not agree with your interpretation of events. The public should not be frightened to take their families out.

BlueBelle Sun 07-May-23 07:05:04

Why do we have a very expensive family as head of a country just because they are born into this particular family this is what I don’t understand at all, if you look back over the years there’s been some disastrous kings and queens (you can’t ignore history) but they have been revered …just because !!! That’s what I don’t understand at all I don’t hate the royal family but I don’t understand the adoration just because they are born into a particular family
Many on here make it very clear they hate and despise Prince Andrew but what if he’d been the eldest and became your king ….just because …. This is where it all breaks down in my world
If Charles who I like by the way and Camilla who I like too had paid for their own coronation I would have had more respect although I still don’t understand the reasoning that just because of someone’s birthright they are untouchable and godlike

Calendargirl Sun 07-May-23 07:22:09

If Prince Andrew had been the eldest, he would have had a different upbringing, in that his duty and destiny would have been just that, ‘different’.

Similar to William and Harry.

Katie59 Sun 07-May-23 07:34:15

Aveline

This was more than a few embittered whingers. Police confiscated huge numbers of placards and attachment devices. This was planned to cause large scale disruption and upset for the hordes of happy people celebrating.
Don't like the king? Fine don't go.

This is my view, the protesters planned to stop the coronation if they could, they and their supporters are a disgrace.
If you don’t like the monarchy ignore the coronation, don’t spoil it for others

The monarchy is part of our heritage and should continue, the cost of the coronation has been estimated at £50-100m, the first for 70yrs, in future probably once in a generation. As part of our heritage spending it is very small. Heritage spending in the UK is £30 billion a year a coronation once in a generation is an insignificant cost.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-May-23 07:43:46

The Police have responded to what is becoming a large area of concern about the way they acted yesterday.

*Metropolitan Police

@metpoliceuk
We understand public concern following arrests made this morning.

We police proportionately and in the context of the event.

This is a once in a generation moment and that has been a key consideration*

Now - I think that even the police recognise that their behaviour was not what one has come to expect from British police, and have suggested that it will not happen again, however, they now have a law that backs up their behaviour. The sooner this law is repealed or watered down the better.

Greta Sun 07-May-23 07:46:55

Yes, BlueBelle, this notion that accident of birth makes somebody worthy of adoration and deference is ludicrous. I can understand that in the past when people believed it was God who had chosen the King/Queen it worked. Don't forget that God had also made most of us 'lowly'. But this is 2023...

BlueBelle Sun 07-May-23 07:48:44

Who knows, who would ever know, not all children turn out well even with the best upbringing in the world Calandargirl
Charles if accounts are correct had a pretty difficult upbringing with absent parents, a tough father and mother bound by duty to be away a lot, then a not so happy schooling Andrew on the other hand was the queens favourite !!!
If what you’re saying is the eldest is treated differently (and you’re probably right) that stinks doesn’t it shouldn’t all children be treated equally

But that’s not answering my question
Why this one family that no one can get rid off even if they are the worst people in the world (think Henry V111) ? Why do they go on and on for hundreds of years and we just accept them good and bad because they are born into that particular blood one which really means diddly squit

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-May-23 07:52:06

FannyCornforth

I think the idea to scare the horses with rape alarms was absolutely atrocious.
Was that really a plan or fake news?

Apparently those carrying rape alarms are nothing to do with the Republicans.

They are in fact a group of volunteers who regularly patrol called The Night Safety team.

The police are not doing themselves much favours.

Grany Sun 07-May-23 08:09:17

Graham Smith CEO of Republic

I’m now out of the police station. Still waiting for my colleagues.

Make no mistake. There is no longer a right to peaceful protest in the UK.

I have been told many times the monarch is there to defend our freedoms. Now our freedoms are under attack in his name.

16 hours detained his colleagues still there All phones confiscated. The public don't like how the police behaved. " Because the quashing of dissent and protest is truly sinister." Crowd fund for Republic campaigns over £61,354 and counting. And. Let the public vote on the future of the monarchy 19,607 people and counting.

Remember this was discussed with police beforehand as a peaceful protest by Republic and the police agreed but broke their promises. Monarchy costs us a fortune and don't do a lot. ABOLISH

Ailidh Sun 07-May-23 08:22:37

Aveline

This was more than a few embittered whingers. Police confiscated huge numbers of placards and attachment devices. This was planned to cause large scale disruption and upset for the hordes of happy people celebrating.
Don't like the king? Fine don't go.

This, absolutely.

Luckygirl3 Sun 07-May-23 08:26:45

The police should have supported peaceful protest. We should not underestimate the implications of losing this right ... they are huge.
I am glad that so many enjoyed yesterday's celebrations, but it is not for me. I listened in to hear the splendid choral singing and the new commissioned works. All the ceremonial and marching feels nonsensical to me.
And I cringed at the archbishop's entirely appropriate plea to remember and care for those living in poverty while surrounded by people in designer clothes and dripping in jewellery ... and with prominent tories ( notably the PM and Morduant) taking part in central roles while also pursuing policies that create this poverty.
The sincerity of the event is pretty skin deep.