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Harry attending coronation alone.

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NotTooOld Wed 12-Apr-23 16:21:58

Is this the best outcome?

Callistemon21 Thu 13-Apr-23 20:22:37

maddyone

Well any answers? Is Louis going to the coronation? I’ll bet no, but of course we don’t know. He’d be quite entertaining though wouldn’t he?

Oh yes, he'd cheer up the proceedings no end!

We had a vicar who used to think that little children should always be welcomed and if they wanted to wander up the aisle and sit on the floor at the front, that was fine.

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 20:08:29

General question.

Why does everyone take every post on here quite so personally?

No you didn't comment on their relative safety, but you joined in a conversation that started when someone did.

maddyone Thu 13-Apr-23 20:06:18

I didn’t comment on the safety of Harry’s children, I answered a post that was about security more generally.
If Harry and Meghan had stayed here as working royals, it was said they they would have had 24 hour security for themselves and their children.
I’ve no idea whether Harry and family are safer here or in America. I haven’t commented on that.

winterwhite Thu 13-Apr-23 20:01:29

Quite possible of course that she will change her mind. 🤣 The birthday party isn’t much of an excuse, easy to brush aside.

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 19:53:35

But they're safer in America? Really?

Yes. Really. 🤦🏼‍♀️

C123 Thu 13-Apr-23 19:51:32

But they're safer in America? Really?
Also, have we forgotten how much Fergie, Camilla, the then Prince Charles were absolutely loathed at some point or other by the press? Press approval comes, and, goes for many of these public figures

5boysnan55555 Thu 13-Apr-23 19:42:06

I think Harry wants a foot in both camps as insurance 👑

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 19:36:22

maddyone

We don’t have secret service minders for all the royal children! Only William and Catherine’s children get full time protection. That’s because they’re next in line to the throne. The only other royals who get protection are working royals and that’s only when they’re actually working. The King and Queen, and William and his family get 24 hour protection. No one else.

OK.

So given the terrible things that are said about them here and on Social Media more generally, and the hatred and division whipped up by the gutter press and News Channels, do you have an inkling why Harry might think his children are not safe here?

C123 Thu 13-Apr-23 19:26:21

They loved her initially & even exaggerated her Hollywood credentials. Something changed

C123 Thu 13-Apr-23 19:23:25

He'd be immature to still think that way to any significant extent.
People divorce and move on

maddyone Thu 13-Apr-23 19:15:10

Well any answers? Is Louis going to the coronation? I’ll bet no, but of course we don’t know. He’d be quite entertaining though wouldn’t he?

maddyone Thu 13-Apr-23 19:13:01

We don’t have secret service minders for all the royal children! Only William and Catherine’s children get full time protection. That’s because they’re next in line to the throne. The only other royals who get protection are working royals and that’s only when they’re actually working. The King and Queen, and William and his family get 24 hour protection. No one else.

Brismum Thu 13-Apr-23 19:12:09

Too many unkind comments on here. People seem to forget that the King and Queen Consort are hardly whiter than white. Diana might have become a loose cannon but she had a lot to contend with. She must have realised quite quickly that she had been chosen to provide Charles with heirs. Camilla could have called a halt to the affair if she’d wanted to. William has always had his place and has Katherine who chose to be his wife, changing university and then persuading William to change courses! As a strong woman she is extremely good for William but she had quite a few years of having William and Harry one on either side of her or just Harry when William had to be on duty elsewhere. She knew exactly what she was taking on and is doing an excellent job but maybe just maybe she didn’t like another strong woman making the trio a quartet. Just my thoughts and I’m glad Harry has got someone for himself instead of being the odd one out.

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 19:06:29

Coco51

volver3

Oh for goodness sake.

Do you really think that the children of people who have been subjected to death threats and targeted racist abuse are safer than your average US Child?

If so you are letting your hatred of H&M cloud your capabilities for reason.

Almost every day we hear of mass shootings in the US and H&M think their children are safer there?

Now I don't really know much of the background to this. But presumably H&M think that if thier children lived in Britain, they would need protection from MI5 or whatever.

Surely nobody can think that a normal, if well off, child in the US, is at more risk than the famous child of a member of the Royal family who has received death threats?

If so, why do we bother with secret service minders for all the royal children?

People seem to have lost all sense of proportion when it comes to these two.

mousemac Thu 13-Apr-23 19:04:27

Basically, I see this overegged attention focused on the Royals as a distraction exercise. Something along the lines of "Don't look at the Johnny-come-lately Prime Minister whose (not even British) Infosys-invested wife is richer than the King, look at the actual King whose centuries old fortune is a bit smaller."
Can we perhaps spend just one moment wondering why Uriah Sunak ever wanted to be Prime Minister, instead of piling in on a person who never asked to be born an heir to the throne?

maddyone Thu 13-Apr-23 19:00:36

Is Louis going?
I doubt he’ll be very well behaved if he does go.
Maybe he’ll be left at home to watch on television with his nanny.

janetsp Thu 13-Apr-23 18:56:45

I am really not interested and don’t care who attends/doesn’t attend.
Generally, not a lot of interest in the Coronation in Scotland.

valdali Thu 13-Apr-23 18:55:25

Not best outcome the whole York family should be there, but if Megan can't.she can't. Everyone has their limits.

Callistemon21 Thu 13-Apr-23 18:44:34

Coco51

Wouldn’t little Archie love to join in the celebrations on his birthday? There’s one very cowardly couple throwing an emotional bomb in the family and expecting everyone to apologise to them. I don’t suppose Harry will be very well received.

I doubt it, he'll be four. It's long and would be quite boring for a little boy.

If he misbehaved or even behaved like a normal 4 year old can you imagine the criticism in the media?
"He's just like his cousin Louis" 😲

Cossy Thu 13-Apr-23 18:43:43

My final comment is about “privacy” An individual should be able to choose what is made public and what isn’t about them - it’s should be their absolute right. I think it’s pathetic to keep saying “ they want privacy, should stay out of the public eye” Perhaps we should recall both PH parents did public interviews later in their marriage, both have had countless books published about them and Diana was totally hounded by the press relentlessly

Gwenisgreat1 Thu 13-Apr-23 18:43:19

Can't help thinking the main reason M is not coming is because she realises she won't be the centre of attention!

Arto1s Thu 13-Apr-23 18:43:12

Don’t care any more. Absolutely sick of hearing about them both.

varian Thu 13-Apr-23 18:30:30

Perhaps Meghan can sit down with her children and watch the coronation on tv.

She can say "that's your Grandpa sitting on the throne being crowned king" and they just might remember that.

I just about remember watching the late queen's coronation on tv.

She wasn't my Granny, but I'm sure if she had been I would have remembered it even better.

Cossy Thu 13-Apr-23 18:26:01

Gillycats

I’m staggered that anyone could feel sorry for the King !! He behaved atrociously towards these boys mothers and growing up the differences between W & H would have become more and more apparent - clearly they were both damaged boys by having their parents marriage totally publicised then the sudden death of their much lived, but damaged, mother played out in public

varian Thu 13-Apr-23 18:23:10

Harry's children are very young. I don't know whether children that age would even remember whether they'd been there.

Lengthy formal ceremonies are hardly the place for babies and toddlers. I'm sure they are likely to be much happier at home with their Mum.