Senior Tories want Braverman to stop her racist rhetoric

And on the topic of housing there would be more good quality rental housing if councils were prepared to work with small landlords instead of treating them as the enemy and squeezing as much money out of them as possible.

So it is alright to rely on immigration instead of training enough people to do the jobs that need doing. We have had that attitude in the NHS for over seventy years and look where we are now. Labour is supposed to be the champion of the NHS but has been prepared to keep wages and costs low by using a foreign trained workforce. An absolute disgrace in my opinion.

GrannyRose15

What do you think are the main problems facing the country then, MayBee70? Housing shortage? Lack of school places? An overwhelmed NHS? Low pay? High taxes? Couldn’t all these be eased if there were fewer people in the country?

The people coming to this country were the ones working in care homes, hospitals etc. The housing shortage is because this government isn’t providing social housing. Too happy to allow their rich friends to rent properties out to people. Schools? Again, the government needs to put more money into them. They’re just blaming migrants for years of underfunding in just about everything. And the back log in processing ( oh how I hate that term) is down to cut backs and underfunding. We also have an ageing population and will probably need younger people to come here from other countries in the future to look after us!

I cannot envisage any question to which the right answer could ever be "Suella Braverman for PM" or even "Suella Braverman for Home Secretary" or "Suella Braverman as MP"

I never though it could ever be possible to have a Home Secretary as bad as Pritti Patel - let alone worse!

The original post was about Bravermans racist language. ?She is very right wing, in cahoots with the ERG , sees herself as a future leader of the Tories and I think uses this style of language to keep in the headlines. As Attorney General she did not shine and politicised the position.Whatever problems there are for the Home Office they will not be solved any easier by the use of such divisive ,racist language. It is done deliberately. Is this the sort of person who should be in such high office ?

It is not selfish to want the best for everyone. We simply seem to disagree about what that best is.

Ooohhh, I'm cut to the quick. 🥺

Now we know why the tories get in. Selfishness and 19th century attitudes rule, OK?

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Better than sounding like a communist.

Ah, bless your heart, explaining enterprise and reward like a nineteenth century factory owner.

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Sorry was that too deep for you? I was talking about taxes and how high taxes are bad for enterprise. If everyone is dependent on handouts this too is bad for enterprise and I might add bad for engendering a feeling of self worth in the population.

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FannyCornforth

Alistair Campbell recently said something along these lines.

He said that the Tories aren’t trying to solve the migrant problem;
they are choosing to capitalise on it.

I think that he’s absolutely spot on

Ah well, Campbell, odious man. He would say that wouldn't he, a pal of Blairs who opened the country to all and sundry.

Please listen to him on The Rest is Politics with Rory Stewart. You might see him in a different light. Also The Rest is Politics Leading podcast in which he interviews non politicians. He also did three TRIP’s podcasts in which he explained the run up to Iraq and why decisions at the time made. Rory Stewart doesn’t hold back when it comes to questioning him. Alastair is also very open about his battle with depression and the podcast puts people in touch with counsellors to get help.

GrannyRose15

No Volver. You are probably one of those who think we should all work for the government who will very generously give us a little bit back as pocket money. Whereas I think that what we earn should belong to us and we should pay a just contribution to collective expenses.

Eh?

Casdon the reason I asked what strategy the Labour Party has is, that whenever I ask this genuine question I met with a blank. It would help me decide who I vote for in the next General Election. Has Keir Starmer or his Party made any suggestions ?

GrannyRose15

Sorry I mistook you for growstuff, Volver. Can’t think why?

Oh I can.

Bravermans mediocrity and racism makes her an easy target, nothing that she has done to date has been effective. She is quite dreadful as a HO minister.

Sorry I mistook you for growstuff, Volver. Can’t think why?

I suspect that having Braverman as Home Sec was the price Sunak paid to keep the loathsome ERG minority on side, but it is backfiring badly for him. Despite the odd person who somehow thinks that comments about Blair and the Iraq war are relevant deflection, the reality is that most people are disgusted by the racism and hypocrisy of Braverman, a woman with parents welcomed as economic refugees who is demonising other parents attempting to improve their families lives and future.

I left the gap for the predictable comments about the majority of asylum seekers being fit young men. With the latest iPhone.

No Volver. You are probably one of those who think we should all work for the government who will very generously give us a little bit back as pocket money. Whereas I think that what we earn should belong to us and we should pay a just contribution to collective expenses.

Growstuff?

And I was interested to know what Maybee was thinking, Growstuff. I could have made a good guess at what you would have to say which is why I targeted my question elsewhere.

Well given that my list differed almost entirely from yours, I don't think we all know what the problems are at all.

For instance. You appear to think one of the problems is high taxes, I don't think we pay enough.

We all know what the problems are. It is the solutions that are causing difficulties. Especially if every new idea is shot down before being given adequate consideration.

actual experts who live and work in the Uk on furlough with time on their hands to be involved in something that could have been something to celebrate, something that worked and could work in the future
oh no..lets give it to JIm who is friends with Matt Cock Hands or similar

The government didn;t even feel the need to engage all the engineers and programmers and whoever else 'actual experts' to design and carry out test and trace, tells you everything really. Even people who had been asked to register with this 'government' as they had dv security clearance. Instead we had a clunky, out dated system that lined the pockets of their matey boys and girls. Tells me all I need to know about these greedy, narrow minded racists but what do I know

GrannyRose15

What do you think are the main problems facing the country then, MayBee70? Housing shortage? Lack of school places? An overwhelmed NHS? Low pay? High taxes? Couldn’t all these be eased if there were fewer people in the country?

Can I answer? Maybee will probably come along later.

Underfunded NHS, polluted environment, disastrous economic situation, cost of living crisis.

Perhaps you will explain how 50,000 people arriving in the UK caused that? (That's just 0.07% of the population, by the way, and the £6million it is costing a day is £2bn a year which is less than 5% of what we squandered on a Test and Trace system that doesn't work. )