Rape and sexual assault in hospitals.

The facts remain

This is disgusting, something needs to be done about it, immediately. Vulnerable people in hospitals (and I too know someone who has experienced something and the perpetrator was caught and charged) should always be safe and well cared for. The level of security on children's wards for every single space in hospital would be a good start

It sounds as though there needs to be many more security staff. I wouldn't expect a nurse to face down a drug addled man but they should have access to immediate help if patients are at risk.
Very difficult for anyone on a ward with a patient with dementia.

Why on earth are trans people being brought into this by Violetsky ?

There are so many problems here that need to be looked at. One of the stories I linked to was about the death of a 75 year old woman who died in hospital and a post mortem revealed she had been seriously sexually attacked. Apparently a staff member was questioned but no one was charged, which means there are probably sex offenders working in hospitals.

As far as geriatric patients are concerned it is a huge and increasing problem add to that mentally ill or drug addicted patients and it becomes much worse. Nursing staff are left to cope with these people. I spent a lot of time in different hospitals with my mum, watching the situations, some nurses dealt with things brilliantly , some were out of their depth.

Ilovecheese

Why on earth are trans people being brought into this by Violetsky ?

No thread would be complete without a mention ilovecheese

Ilovecheese and sodapop

Are you talking too me or about me?

Because I am right here

Nursing staff being put in danger is another serious issue glorianny

Especially at certain times of the evening when people who have injured themselves under the influence are coming in

My DD has told me nurses are punched and kicked while trying to treat people who come in after drunken fights.

I would not go into hospital without a rape alarm

Sago your ordeal sounds horrendous and what you say about a rape alarm is an indictment of the system.

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/hospital-says-patient-could-not-26506744

VioletSky

Nursing staff being put in danger is another serious issue glorianny

Especially at certain times of the evening when people who have injured themselves under the influence are coming in

The A&E problems are very different to those on a ward.

Not really when a hospital doesn't have enough security in general

Well seeing as how violetsky has again dragged trans into the discussion, maybe this is worth looking at

A patient who was raped by a transgender woman on a hospital ward could not have been raped because her attacker is defined as a woman, heard the House of Lords.

Police were told by hospital staff that the reported incident was not true, telling officers: "There was no male in the hospital, therefore the rape could not have happened."

During a debate on single-sex hospital wards, Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne, a Conservative Life peer shared the story which left the victim on "the edge of a nervous breakdown."

The hospital was able "to tell a straightforward lie" she said. Adding that only a year after the reported assault took place, and after CCTV and witness statements were taken, were the hospital willing to admit to the incident.

Lady Baroness said: "[The hospital] forgot that there was CCTV, nurses and observers.
"Nonetheless, it has taken nearly a year for the hospital to agree that there was a male on the ward and, yes, this rape happened. During that year [the woman] has almost come to the edge of a nervous breakdown, because being disbelieved about being raped in hospital has been such an appalling shock.

"The hospital, with all its CCTV, has had to admit that the rape happened and that it was committed by a man.

The alleged attack, at an undisclosed hospital, is a situation that has been warned of by campaigners who seek to protect single-sex places.

I imagine that dementia is a much greater problem though.

People who are drunk or drugged can be removed from the wards, but dementia patients are staying on the wards.

MerylStreep

Granydarkhair
I think some posters might have a problem with the opinions of Professor Jo Phoenix because she’s a gender critical feminist.

Actually nannageorge

I'm not the one who brought "gender critical" to the chat

And I then went on to answer another question put to me by Iam who clearly knew the answer already

I didn't bring up the plight of nurses either

It's your choice to use the thread to further a trans agenda not mine but it does showcase why gender critical feminists frustrate me. You would change the course of the whole thread to be about trans people when it is actually a much larger issue.

So there we go sadly

My neighbour was attacked in hospital by an elderly woman with dementia. It wasn't the first time that it had happened, the nursing staff knew that she was violent but they had nowhere to send her to until social services had found her a place in a nursing home. Terrible ordeal for my neighbour.

Gloryanny I’m certain you’re right and sex offenders are employed in hospitals. They’re clever at finding employment or volunteering in places where vulnerable children and adults are readily available

The lengths perpetrators will go too are staggering, not just their employments but their whole lifestyle, personality and even opinions to enter relationships close to vulnerable people and children

But doesn't moving someone with dementia to a nursing home just move the problem?

Not as serious as some of the incidents already mentioned, but when DH was in hospital earlier this year, another patient with dementia tried to get into bed with him. Fortunately there were plenty of staff around, but they said he should not be in hospital as it wasn’t safe, for him, or for other patients, or for the staff, but it seems there was nowhere else to send him, given his heart condition.

During my recent hospital stay I was moved several times between wards, and in two of them there were patients with dementia. They were women only wards, but I know that ‘inappropriate’ behaviour is not uncommonly a feature of dementia - probably in men more than women.

On the wards I was in, there was a one to one attendant - usually a HCA - with the person day and night. Presumably it was the same for any men with dementia. I felt so sorry for the staff, having to cope with this - as if they don’t have enough to do.

Trouble with dementia patients though, it's not their fault really. Punishment doesn't seem appropriate, heavy sedation also seems rather unkind so what might help?

I missed your post witzend I suppose that is the best solution but once again, very expensive.

There are secure units which are specifically for people with dementia who are showing violent tendencies. Unfortunately there are very few of them and they only cater for people who do not need medical care.

The orthopaedic ward my mother was in was a secure ward with keypad entry. Some of the patients had dementia, many were disorientated, some were mobile and wandered, others were static, but cried and shouted incessantly. It puts an extra strain on the nurses.