Sudan

GrannyGravy13

Grantanow

Repatriation rescues are never simple and can be very risky, perhaps more risky than sitting tight. Too many people are rushing to judgment that the UK is doing nothing. There are likely some intense private discussions going on behind the scenes to pave the way.

Totally agree

It looks like there’s a lot of cooperation between nations, they are filling up flights with nationals from other countries to get them out. That’s what is needed rather than bashing one country at the moment, let’s just get them out and the post mortem can happen later about who did it well and who didn’t.

Exactly Freya, as I said people were getting themselves out last week. As they were aware then.

Yes people are rushing to judgement. There are far fewer other nationalities in Sudan than the UK and America, particularly the Dutch who only have about 300 people on the ground. Britain has 4,000, America many more. Its not just a question of sending aircraft and flying people out, the whole exercise is extremely dangerous, as war zones often are! and needs careful strategy and complex planning.

Whitewavemark2

It was on BBC

Oh right, the BBC , so must be correct. Not sure I'd trust anything from the British bashing corporation.

Grantanow

Repatriation rescues are never simple and can be very risky, perhaps more risky than sitting tight. Too many people are rushing to judgment that the UK is doing nothing. There are likely some intense private discussions going on behind the scenes to pave the way.

Totally agree

Repatriation rescues are never simple and can be very risky, perhaps more risky than sitting tight. Too many people are rushing to judgment that the UK is doing nothing. There are likely some intense private discussions going on behind the scenes to pave the way.

Sudan was under British control (1896-1955) along with Egypt, (Anglo-Egyptian Sudan) Administered both by Egypt and Britain. The French claimed several areas but, in 1899, after conflict France agreed to cede these areas to Anglo Egyptian Sudan. Since independence Sudan has had a very troubled history which sadly has again raised its ugly head.

Granygravy13 seems RAF have ready C-130 for transport out.

Norah the U.K. also got its Embassy workers and Families out over the weekend.

I have just listened to a British woman Imam Haled (sp) who has three young children on a live phone call to Breakfast News (ITV) she has her evacuation instructions.

The problem is there is still gunfire outside and it’s unclear whether it’s looters which are common in Khartoum at this time or the ceasefire not holding.

U.K. Forces are ready to get approximately 4,000 British/Duel Nationals out from an unnamed air field.

According to the news the evacuation has begun, let’s hope that the convoy/s do not get fired on like the French, Turkish and others (source ITV News)

The government is saying it will start repatriation asap.

Let’s hope it is totally successful.

Smileless2012

A three day cease fire; will it hold and will it be enough to get them all out?

One would hope so.

US extracted people from their Embassy at the weekend. It seems Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Spain are also bringing people out.

A three day cease fire; will it hold and will it be enough to get them all out?

It’s a terrible situation for all civilians, hundreds of thousands will want to leave the city if they can I’m sure.

Casdon

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Yes I suppose.

But I’d rather be a French or Dutch national - have you seen how the Dutch has talked their nationals through every step of the way, sometimes contacting them up to 4 times a day. Now that is what I call a good government.

You see we don’t have a very good recent record do we, so it doesn’t fill one with confidence. Think Johnson and Raab and now Cleverly.

Not sure how they are contacting them four times a day, electricity is scarce as in the internet.

Mobile phones with solar power packs probably.

That’s a possibility yes.

Khartoum the hub of the power struggle I can only assume that’s where the majority of the foreign nationals are. Fresh water and food is also scarce according to news channels.

I feel for the Sudanese people as nobody is about to rescue them.

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Yes I suppose.

But I’d rather be a French or Dutch national - have you seen how the Dutch has talked their nationals through every step of the way, sometimes contacting them up to 4 times a day. Now that is what I call a good government.

You see we don’t have a very good recent record do we, so it doesn’t fill one with confidence. Think Johnson and Raab and now Cleverly.

Not sure how they are contacting them four times a day, electricity is scarce as in the internet.

Mobile phones with solar power packs probably.

It was on BBC

Whitewavemark2

Yes I suppose.

But I’d rather be a French or Dutch national - have you seen how the Dutch has talked their nationals through every step of the way, sometimes contacting them up to 4 times a day. Now that is what I call a good government.

You see we don’t have a very good recent record do we, so it doesn’t fill one with confidence. Think Johnson and Raab and now Cleverly.

Not sure how they are contacting them four times a day, electricity is scarce as in the internet.

As a former French colony I imagine France has many more connections in Sudan than the UK. The Uk has no troops stationed there, for instance and we can’t just send people in without permission. I hope a plan comes to fruition soon but having lived in countries that have experienced severe security events, I know it’s a hugely risky thing to do.

Yes I suppose.

But I’d rather be a French or Dutch national - have you seen how the Dutch has talked their nationals through every step of the way, sometimes contacting them up to 4 times a day. Now that is what I call a good government.

You see we don’t have a very good recent record do we, so it doesn’t fill one with confidence. Think Johnson and Raab and now Cleverly.

Forsythia

Apparently 71 Sudanese doctors, consultants and juniors, plus their families are over there. Why?

It will be because Eid has just happened I would imagine, like in the UK at Christmas, they go home to celebrate with their families, which is as it should be. The fighting started when many families would already have left the UK.

They have extracted all Embassy Staff and their families over the weekend as they had been subject to a direct threat.

There was a much publicised COBRA meeting last night, it would be extremely foolhardy to make public any plans to extract civilians.

Yes France is taking British nationals.

It’s Afghanistan all over again. Aren’t other countries now offering to help UK nationals leave the country? Does this government ever learn from it’s mistakes?