New Scottish news update

It's a common misconception - honestly. No sarcasm meant there.

I thought it was the English that was the problem….. thanks for info.

ronib

Did you know that Orkney and Shetland don’t want independence from England?

Well, neither do the Borders. If you take an average. I'm sure that there are lots of people in the Borders that do, just as there are lots of people in Shetland and Orkney that do.

BTW it's not independence from England, it's independence from the United Kingdom.

I believe that there is a movement to push for independence, but its not as huge as some would have you believe.

But, that would be up to them.

Did you know that Orkney and Shetland don’t want independence from England?

volver3

Orkney and Shetland aren't countries.

Volver3 do Orkney and Shetland want to be separate countries?

IS this democracy?

Yes, it is.

One person one vote and, at present, a first past the post system.

"Certain areas of England" aren't countries either.

Certain areas of England don’t get the government they vote for . That’s the way it works

Anniebach

*Callistemon*. John Redwood !

Yes!

"Your lips are moving but all I hear is blah, blah, blah" 😁

Orkney and Shetland aren't countries.

Yes it is democracy. Orkney and Shetland never get the Lib Dem government they vote for

DonaldDewar backed devolution ...along with John Smith ,as a way of getting rid of the call for Independence .His insistence on the new building at Holyrood and its massive overspend by the then Labour administration was against what the SNP advised .We wanted to refurbish the old High School building ,Dewar thought the new building and it Spanish architect might put folk off even devolution! He was wrong .
Now WM is conniving to roll devolution back ,what they should remember is that everyone born since devolution knows what good can happen even with the very limited powers we have ....and the vast majority of 16 -35 year olds ...over 70% say they want Independence ,Being of a generation thats used to getting what they want ...they aren't prepared to wait the 56 years I and many like me have waited .

Annie I didn't say NO tory mp's ,but no majority in almost 70 years when we've had them foisted on us for over half that time by English voters . Scotland has not returned a tory government since 1955 ,the year my OH was born .
IS this democracy?

Callistemon. John Redwood !

Aveline

I wish Donald Dewar was still around. God knows what he'd think of the current shower in Scottish 'government'.

I always thought he seemed a good politician, an intelligent and thoughtful man, unlike some of today's politicians.

I shouldn't have laughed about his expression, it was unkind.
Perhaps there was much going on to make him look like that.

I wish Donald Dewar was still around. God knows what he'd think of the current shower in Scottish 'government'.

Anniebach

🤣, we have 14 of em in Wales 😡

Yet at one time the Secretary of State for Wales was a Consrrvative MP for an English constituency.

It was said of Dewar that he had the expression of one whose fingers had just gone through the toilet paper

Spluttering coffee everywhere, HousePlantQueen!
😂😂😂

ronib

Just read that Douglas Ross is stepping down as mp at the next election.

another one getting out before he is thrown out. It is disappointing, because Ross is one on my list of current MPs who I would like to see defeated, nay humiliated, in the coming GE.

Ross's facial gestures remind me of the late Donald Dewar, all pursed mouth and sneers. It was said of Dewar that he had the expression of one whose fingers had just gone through the toilet paper.

Apologies to those of a sensitive disposition.

Ross should have stood down as an MP when he was elected to Holyrood. He must find it taxing to juggle his three jobs, MP, MSP and football referee. Four if I add being the high heid yin of the Scottish Conservatives. Unfortunately for them he is no Ruth Davidson.

Just read that Douglas Ross is stepping down as mp at the next election.

I'm reserving judgement about ACH. He seems OK.

🤣, we have 14 of em in Wales 😡

I always thought Alex Cole Hamilton had good intentions? Bit sad really that with all the problems facing ordinary folk, the politicians are not really up to the task.

Anniebach

No conservative mp in Scotland since 1955 ?

There's six at the moment.

We were down to one a few years ago. That was good. They had to make him Secretary of State for Scotland. 🤣