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ronib

The legality of tactical voting wasn’t questioned more the incredible stupidity of yet another politician. Douglas Ross doesn’t seem at all capable in his current leadership position.

Agreed ronib. Ross isn't a councillor, he is head of the Tory Party in Scotland. He suggested that people who might think of voting Tory in the GE should vote Labour if it meant "getting the SNP out".

Can you imagine Rishi telling people to vote for Labour?

The reason you (general, not you particularly) think that the SNP keep banging on about independence is that Ross keeps telling you so; he's obsessed, and has nothing to offer the Scottish people except "we're not the SNP". In his recent speech at conference he mentioned the "SNP" more than 100 times, the "Tories" once or twice, and "poverty", not at all. He's a bit of a laughing stock.

No conservative mp in Scotland since 1955 ?

ronib

What is wrong with Alba?

Alba are led by Alex Salmond but many of their members are just extremists.

I believe Tommy Sheridan is a member? And lots of people with grudges?

Also Alex was of the opinion that we shouldn't allow the Stone of Scone back to England for the coronation. Ash Regan agreed with him. 🤦🏼‍♀️

They give Independence supporters a bad name. IMO.

ronib

paddyann54 do you mean The Prince of Wales ship built in Rosyth? That’s Scotland? Don’t think you have given a full picture.
The Prince of Wales is being mended at a cost of £25 million and will still become operational. It’s not unusual, according to one news article for parts to be transferred.
Now back to the ferries - just wondering how the Scottish islanders are coping?

Well said.

What is wrong with Alba?

The legality of tactical voting wasn’t questioned more the incredible stupidity of yet another politician. Douglas Ross doesn’t seem at all capable in his current leadership position.

ronib

Douglas Ross, Conservative, suggested tactical voting to oust the SNP at the next general election. Rishi Sunak suggested not to do that and that Conservatives should always vote for their own party.

Seems pretty obvious that telling voters to increase the Labour vote if that removes the SNP will result in a Labour victory in Westminster. So a doh moment in politics. Another one.

Labour in my English county are doing the very same, even made a you tube channel to put it out there, tactical voting to get rid of local Conservative councillors, even though they have done much good. Tactical voting and putting it forward is not illegal, unfortunately. Done all over the UK and NI.

Apt summary Volver.

The Greens, who haven't exactly set the heather on fire recently.

Alba, if we're in the mood for a laugh.

That's about it.

Well Volver 3 seems then from pro independence position, only SNP will fight that corner?

No they're not ronib. They're not even on the fence. If they were they'd be an option, much like Labour.

Volver 3 and the Lib Dems under Alex Cole Hamilton? Are they pro independence?

The big thing that will keep the Scottish Tories out of power here is that they dismiss independence out of hand. The other thing is that most people wouldn't trust them with running a tombola, let alone a country.

Like it or not, independence is a huge thing for many people here. It would be impossible for me to vote for a party that tells me "No, you can't have that" because it is so fundamental. The Labour Party under Sarwar seems more viable as a government than the Tories, but they still will not consider independence. They won't even give people the choice, its a flat "no".

While that remains the case, a big chunk of people will never support them.

Many people up here hate both current governments. They've both been in power too long and are coming apart very quickly especially in Scotland. Sooner they're both out the better.

Callistemon21 the view in Scotland seems to be hate this English government, hate the Tories.

paddyann54 do you mean The Prince of Wales ship built in Rosyth? That’s Scotland? Don’t think you have given a full picture.
The Prince of Wales is being mended at a cost of £25 million and will still become operational. It’s not unusual, according to one news article for parts to be transferred.
Now back to the ferries - just wondering how the Scottish islanders are coping?

I think Gransnetters were advising everyone to use tactical voting at the last election.
There was at least one thread about it.

I suppose it could be used but surely people vote for the party whose policies align most closely with their views?

meantime in England , one billion pound ship being stripped for parts to repair another billion pound ship while a whole fleet of ships are STILL waiting for propellers 7 years after they should have been at sea.....but but but The Ferry's ....seems you cant see the wood for the trees!!
I suppose it feels different when its the government voted for by England thats wasting your money WE haven'tvoted tories into power since 1955 ..YES that is NINETEEN FIFTY FIVE .
Democracy ? Well its supposed to be .

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volver3

It's a picture of Yousaf at the Ferguson Marine plant when he was transport minister, they are the firm building the ferries (very slowly). I've no idea what he was trying to say, sorry.

‘It could have been me’? (In a parallel universe, obviously).

Makes a change from camper vans 😀

£87000 bonuses paid by the government to boat builders for non delivery of two ferry boats which the people living on the Scottish islands would like.

It's a picture of Yousaf at the Ferguson Marine plant when he was transport minister, they are the firm building the ferries (very slowly). I've no idea what he was trying to say, sorry.

It’s a photo of the new SNP leader. Something about ferry boats?

Ach, it wasn't that exciting. It was a photo. But look at his wee face 😏