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Will You Pledge Allegiance?

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vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 07:34:47

Apparently we are all supposed to stand up in front of our tellys and pledge allegiance to the King saying stuff like “ May the King live forever”
Will you me doing it? Me neither, I’ll be in the garden hopefully.
What does “pledge allegiance” even mean in the 21st century? Before royalist pile in, yes I do know it has its roots a few hundred years ago, and it’s taken from a Handel anthem , but , honestly , that’s no excuse is it? We’re not in the Brownies fgs.

Nandalot Sun 30-Apr-23 10:20:09

I won’t. But even swearing allegiance in the Abbey seems strange as, I assume, there will be a lot of foreign dignitaries.

DamaskRose Sun 30-Apr-23 10:18:52

I am interested in the Coronation as a once in a lifetime experience. I don’t dislike the RF but I disagree with the wealth etc. I certainly won’t be swearing allegiance, I thought it was a joke!
Genuine question to whoever said “Lambeth Palace will be rubbing their hands”. Why?

Oopsadaisy1 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:13:31

No, I certainly won’t.

Gala Sun 30-Apr-23 10:06:30

Hang in there Galaxy the novelty will soon wear off.

Luckygirl3 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:05:21

This is carrying inclusivity too far. What a piece of nonsense!

By all means have the archaic ceremonies if it brings money into the country, but I will not be pledging allegiance - why would anyone?

J52 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:00:59

Meant to edit out ‘to’

J52 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:00:35

I consider my moral compass to superior, so I won’t.

Grandma70s Sun 30-Apr-23 09:54:21

No. I am more monarchist than not, but no

volver3 Sun 30-Apr-23 09:42:13

A Republic was tried in this country once, it ended well, didn't it. ?

I love this argument, its so bonkers.

"We tried that 400 years ago, and it didn't work then. That'll teach us." 🤣🤣🤣

Lexisgranny Sun 30-Apr-23 09:41:17

I just think that this is a step too far. I appreciate that it is addressed at ‘those who wish to’ but feel it could be couched in different terms.

There has long been talk that Meghan and Harry should be employing different advisers, but I do wonder whether the same applies to the King. In the Prince of Wales’s position I would be itching to make changes, but there again, the King was previously in the same position, and his choices are now being criticised.

NanaDana Sun 30-Apr-23 09:40:52

Freya5

NanaDana

As a Republican I'll be watching some of the Coronation ceremony purely out of interest in social history, but I feel no allegiance whatsoever to Charles or to any other Royal. The whole concept is a total anachronism, and should be at the very least scaled down to the point where it is no more than a tourist attraction. The Civil List should be abolished, and the so=called Monarchy should play no part whatsoever, even in a ritual sense, in the Government of our Nation. I could say much more about the "worthiness" of the Royal couple, but I'll leave it there. So it's a "No" from me.

Millions around the world will be watching, and enjoying the historical moment in our history. . If your so against it why bother. Just get on with your day. We'll stay with the Kingdoms of Spain, Sweden, Norway, thank-you. A Republic was tried in this country once, it ended well, didn't it. ?
As for the allegiance, nothing wrong with joining in, makes one part of a historical moment. If you don't want to, then don't, it's free choice after all.

Err.. which part of " I'll be watching some of the Coronation ceremony purely out of interest in social history" do you not understand, Freya 5? And your assertion that : "As for the allegiance, nothing wrong with joining in", seriously? Read the posts here. The vast majority have no intention of doing so, "it's free choice after all". As for telling me to "just get on with my day".. don't patronise me, or anyone else on here who has the temerity to disagree with your Royalist stance.. which you have every right to express, but not to the denigration of those who don't happen to share it.

GagaJo Sun 30-Apr-23 09:39:29

FFS, who do they think he is? Caligula?

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 30-Apr-23 09:27:58

Ridiculous idea. No way. And I’m a royalist.

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-23 09:13:57

vegansrock all are not being asked

foxie48 Sun 30-Apr-23 09:10:41

My neighbour has organised a party for friends and neighbours and I always support her even if I don't support the reason for celebration. It's on the Sunday and having made the Jubilee trifle for her last bash, I've been asked to make a cake like the coronation crown (ffs!) So I shall spend Saturday faffing around with purple and gold sugar paste + a collection of wine gums etc surrounded by sponge cake! A definite no from me but I am pleased the invitations have gone to "ordinary" people who have contributed to society in some way rather than just the great and the good.

vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 09:09:21

Well how do we know who wishes to do this unless all are asked.? Obviously the police aren’t going to knock on the door of those who aren’t tugging their forelocks, but the whole idea is treating us like infants. I wonder how many people wish to do this? Not many I’m guessing.

BlueBelle Sun 30-Apr-23 09:07:16

I don’t think many will be doffing their caps and tugging their forelocks have I got that right way round 😂😂😂, maybe a few in our age bracket but the younger generations will be out living life and will have no interest

I have no loyalty or obedience to the rich royals, none whatsoever to the government of the day (years..dragging on years) and little for the country now, as it stands for nothing. I hold dear (hopefully that will spark back up if ‘they’ ever go)

MaizieD Sun 30-Apr-23 09:06:32

Whose bl**dy ridiculous idea was this?

Greyduster Sun 30-Apr-23 08:58:24

I will not. I swore an oath to the late Queen when I joined the Services, and was proud to honour that oath, but it died with her. I have to wonder how much the King is letting himself be led through the nose in all this, especially by Lambeth Palace who must be rubbing their hands with glee.

ginny Sun 30-Apr-23 08:57:36

No, I won’t be swearing allegiance to the King or anyone else.

Freya5 Sun 30-Apr-23 08:55:48

NanaDana

As a Republican I'll be watching some of the Coronation ceremony purely out of interest in social history, but I feel no allegiance whatsoever to Charles or to any other Royal. The whole concept is a total anachronism, and should be at the very least scaled down to the point where it is no more than a tourist attraction. The Civil List should be abolished, and the so=called Monarchy should play no part whatsoever, even in a ritual sense, in the Government of our Nation. I could say much more about the "worthiness" of the Royal couple, but I'll leave it there. So it's a "No" from me.

Millions around the world will be watching, and enjoying the historical moment in our history. . If your so against it why bother. Just get on with your day. We'll stay with the Kingdoms of Spain, Sweden, Norway, thank-you. A Republic was tried in this country once, it ended well, didn't it. ?
As for the allegiance, nothing wrong with joining in, makes one part of a historical moment. If you don't want to, then don't, it's free choice after all.

nanna8 Sun 30-Apr-23 08:55:40

Do=don’t

nanna8 Sun 30-Apr-23 08:55:29

Haha - not April Fool’s Day a bit late? I simply do believe it.

Grammaretto Sun 30-Apr-23 08:52:57

I shall be foraging on the beach. I bet Charlie would much prefer to be with us.

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-23 08:52:09

Wrong, those who wish to are being asked not all are being asked.

O/P misleading.