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Will You Pledge Allegiance?

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vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 07:34:47

Apparently we are all supposed to stand up in front of our tellys and pledge allegiance to the King saying stuff like “ May the King live forever”
Will you me doing it? Me neither, I’ll be in the garden hopefully.
What does “pledge allegiance” even mean in the 21st century? Before royalist pile in, yes I do know it has its roots a few hundred years ago, and it’s taken from a Handel anthem , but , honestly , that’s no excuse is it? We’re not in the Brownies fgs.

ixion Sun 30-Apr-23 08:48:31

Hey, it's not just to the King, but we are swearing allegiance to his heirs as well😳
(Same article).

Grantanow Sun 30-Apr-23 08:46:27

Seems completely out of touch to me.

ixion Sun 30-Apr-23 08:46:20

"Our hope is at that point, when the Archbishop invites people to join in, that people wherever they are, if they're watching at home on their own, watching the telly, will say it out loud - this sense of a great cry around the nation and around the world of support for the King."
A spokesman for Lambeth Palace, the archbishop's office.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

I had great hopes of real, meaningful modernisation by the King.
Now we have special vegan holy oil, a new, specially embroidered anointing screen so we can't see what's going on, everyday brings a new surprise and increasing disappointment that nothing will change.

No forelock tugging here.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 30-Apr-23 08:45:47

Wasn’t born at the last Coronation, I am pro the Monarchy but have never heard of standing up and pledging allegiance whilst watching on TV.

silverlining48 Sun 30-Apr-23 08:39:29

Heard today it has cost us £250 million and it’s a no from me.

Galaxy Sun 30-Apr-23 08:37:08

The trouble is Gala, avoiding royal events is becoming a full time activity, I havent got the time for it smile

wendyann23 Sun 30-Apr-23 08:36:53

No. I am a royalist but this is a step too far.

vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 08:35:43

grandMattie imagine King Andrew and Queen Sarah!

Shanie Sun 30-Apr-23 08:35:18

No thanks.

vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 08:34:41

anniebach we are invited to join a “chorus of millions” , yes they are asking for public participation, this was from Lambeth Palace who want it to be “ around the world”, “whether at home or outside” BBC website. So they are calling for public participation. Fat chance I say !

Gala Sun 30-Apr-23 08:34:32

The "allegiance" is apparently the peers bit, now you can all join in - if you want. Its not compulsory, just part of Charles' inclusivity (not modernisation) along with using the UK languages of Welsh, Irish Gaelic & Scottish Gaelic, representatives of major faiths (& minor ones for all I know) participation of women bishops etc etc . Can't understand why people get so exercised over something they say they're not going to watch or celebrate. Go about your day. Enjoy.

grandMattie Sun 30-Apr-23 08:34:28

eazybee

This thread is sooo predictable.
I shall.

I agree. I most likely shall.
I believe, despite all efforts, that the monarchy brings stability rather than the rocky route of republics…. Imagine President Boris!

Pooter Sun 30-Apr-23 08:34:23

As an idea it's up there with bringing back standing for the national anthem at the end of the film in the cinema.

nanaK54 Sun 30-Apr-23 08:31:37

It's a no from me!

Blinko Sun 30-Apr-23 08:27:28

I'm disappointed that we will not be seeing a scaled down version. It's still full of the old nonsense, anointing behind a specially made screen, trumpeters, gold coaches, all that parading in livery - for goodness sake!

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-23 08:26:35

‘All who so desire in the Abbey and elsewhere’

This is not asking all to stand in front of their television

Franbern Sun 30-Apr-23 08:25:47

Oh dear !! What a silly idea. What royal adviser idiot came up with this? Obviously, not one with any sort of 'finger on the pulse. Perhaps they should start to realise how an increasing number of the population are not royalist, and also how the last census showed the very large numbers of people who do not have any believes in any god.

kittylester Sun 30-Apr-23 08:11:01

I am looking forward to the whole ritual and spectacle but this seems to be so 'tone deaf'. I won't be swearing allegiance.

eazybee Sun 30-Apr-23 08:09:12

This thread is sooo predictable.
I shall.

BlueBelle Sun 30-Apr-23 08:08:46

No of course not my only allegiance is to my family
I have no problem with Charles or Camilla just don’t play into any of this rich royal rubbish

NanaDana Sun 30-Apr-23 08:02:27

As a Republican I'll be watching some of the Coronation ceremony purely out of interest in social history, but I feel no allegiance whatsoever to Charles or to any other Royal. The whole concept is a total anachronism, and should be at the very least scaled down to the point where it is no more than a tourist attraction. The Civil List should be abolished, and the so=called Monarchy should play no part whatsoever, even in a ritual sense, in the Government of our Nation. I could say much more about the "worthiness" of the Royal couple, but I'll leave it there. So it's a "No" from me.

Galaxy Sun 30-Apr-23 07:59:42

No.

Witzend Sun 30-Apr-23 07:55:21

It sounds a very American sort of thing - pledging allegiance to the flag….
I’m not anti the monarchy, but no, I certainly won’t.

volver3 Sun 30-Apr-23 07:53:28

This "modernisation" thing isn't going the way they hoped, is it?

HowVeryDareYou2 Sun 30-Apr-23 07:52:05

No