Will You Pledge Allegiance?

It’s my 70th birthday so I will be celebrating that 😊

Some GNs might be interested to know that immigrants to Canada who apply for citizenship have to attend a citizenship ceremony and recite the Oath of Citizenship.
Here it is:-
"I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to his Majesty King Charles the Third, King of Canada, his Heirs and Successors .....".
I became a Canadian citizen shortly after the Queen's death and it felt very strange to swear allegiance to Charles.

Just listened to a news report of the security details for the day - hundreds of police - frankly needed else where. I'm increasingly feeling there is something very wrong with all this and the money spent on it need so badly elsewhere (as are the police).

This has to change. Nothing will sop it going ahead this time, but I hope that William when the time comes can be "sworn in" with a simple ceremony, not needing the international visitors or the commitment to one particular church....

Is the % important apart from making people in either group feel satisfied that they were right about something that can’t be proved?

Is anyone pledging a vow of allegiance, the business of anyone apart from the person doing it.

The media will be full of unverified statistics of who did pledge and who didn’t.
Small surveys, e.g. of contributors on GN will be used to extrapolate unverifiable results for people to argue about.
Some people will be smug that they were right. Others will argue that the margin was too small to be fair.
Jaberwok, as you say,
Justin Welby would have done best to leave well alone . . .
BUT on the other hand, he has got a large number of people who avowedly want nothing to do with the coronation, or who aren’t interested to talk/post endlessly about a non compulsory part of the Coronation.
Well done Justin.

Jaberwok

I would think it'll less than that! Bear in mind this idea has come out of Lambeth Palace not Buckingham Palace! I gather that B.P isn't that amused by it!! Dear old Justin Welby trying to be inclusive apparently, when he'd have done best to leave well alone imo!

Much less indeed, if the majority of us grans will not do it- the % of our Acs and GCs who will, will probably be tiny- less than 20%, and perhaps less even.

effalump

I really think the ones that do will be doing it for the selfies. They'll be all over the internet next week. I won't be watching either but I might see if there are stills or short videos on YT. There'll definitely be 'overkill' on the msm this week and next weekend. Not that I would ever pledge allegiance, the think that worries me is the bit about "according to the Law". I'm not sure whether or not the British Forces get any punishment for breaking their oath to King and Country but what happens if you've pledged whilst enjoying a barbie and copious amounts of booze and then do something considered against the 'Oath'. Will you be dragged off to the local jail? Sounds dodgy to me. I think I'll pass.

I hadn't thought of doing a selfie of myself pledging alone in my room... and sharing it on line. I still won't do it though, I'd feel an even bigger twerp than spouting allegiance to an empty room with no one to see.

As for taking oaths of allegiance whilst scoffing a kebab at a barbie, it seems, well, disrespectful. It certainly degrades the oaths which newcomers to our shores pledge when they become citizens.

I would think it'll less than that! Bear in mind this idea has come out of Lambeth Palace not Buckingham Palace! I gather that B.P isn't that amused by it!! Dear old Justin Welby trying to be inclusive apparently, when he'd have done best to leave well alone imo!

As it is optional it will be interesting to see how many take up the option. My guess is well below half.

No.

Oh get a grip,that was over 20 years ago, and these two love birds have been married for just on 18 years without a breath of scandal. Now if Charles was like Edward V11th with his many mistresses I too would be a bit cluckerty, but he's not even remotely like him. Charles and Camilla are clearly devoted to each other and it's a poor heart that denies another personal happiness. The initial marriage was a mistake for both of them, initial marriages quite often are, and do remember Diana was no saint,breaking up at least two marriages among a plethora of boyfriends! Perhaps fidelity wasn't her strong point either.

Hell would freeze over before I’d swear anything to a pair of adulteress . Now if it was William and Kate that’s different all together . That woman should not be queen . Just my option

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I’m very proud to be British MadeInYorkshire. I know your personal circumstances are very difficult, and for that I’m very sorry, but think of the countries where war rages, children starve or die from preventable diseases, mothers die in childbirth - we have much to be thankful for.

Why not? Sounds like a plan. I pledged my allegiance to the Queen when a Guide, my daughter did so when she joined the army. It seems like a nice idea to me.

I agree with Jaberwok about the pen incident. The inkwell - was it? - was placed where it was obviously going to be knocked over, and the King was trying to signal to someone to move it to a safer place and avoid a mishap. That's all.

and will raise the hackles

The hackles are still rising!

This morning, hairdresser (38 years old) planning to watch the Ceremony. Nail assistant (22 years old), planning to watch the ceremony, parents (I don’t ask their age) and children, arriving at school yesterday with boxes of cakes for the coronation fundraiser all full of enthusiasm for the Coronation, (children possibly keener in the extra bank holiday).
Those (and there may well be some) who are not in favour, weren’t standing round shouting about it.
No anonymity I suppose.

I and my family young and old would be happy to but as we are all loyal subjects to HM and have been all our lives, the RF can take our support as a done deal. It isn't all just cutting ribbons and opening new buildings, they are all involved in so much more and doing a lot of good in many unsung ways. The income from tourists will more than make up for the cost of the next few days, my granddaughter lives in Windsor and she says that you can't move for tourists,mainly American and Japanese who are freely spending! Hotels have been booked up for weeks and people camping in the Mall. All a good sign.

Absolutely NOT!

There's nothing left to even be proud of being British anymore, this country is a disgrace quite frankly ....

Well said paddyann.

It’s an invite, not an edict, I politely decline.

Although I am happy to, I don't think it's a brilliant idea. It will be resented by some. It's too archaic and out of touch. I did hope that King Charles would modernise as soon as possible.
But hopefully he will, given time.

I just think it was a daft suggestion and will raise the hackles of many people who might have been indifferent.

It's something some in the Forces do.
The Army pledges allegiance to the Crown.
The Royal Navy does not because it is implicit in the name.

It’s a No from me.

NO