Voter ID

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Bizziebe

No idea where Fleurpepper lives, but it says the nurse was in Milton Keynes. I don't think Oyster cards have reached there yet, do what is the talk about London Teaching hospitals?

If a nurse cannot read and or understand the information on their polling card…

It would be worrying if a nurse was unable to read, especially as a degree is a requirement now and prior to that the examinations were very rigorous.

I wonder if all those of you smugly saying that people should have read the information on their polling card realise that a few million UK adults cannot actually read very well, some not at all?

Just wondering - would anyone have deliberately not produced the required I.D. for personal/publicity purposes?

Bizziebe

Yes. I wouldn't fancy that nurse reading what drugs I should or should not be given! 😲

😲
Yes!

"Oh sorry, dear, I didn't read the small print for contraindications!"

Bizziebe

No idea where Fleurpepper lives, but it says the nurse was in Milton Keynes. I don't think Oyster cards have reached there yet, do what is the talk about London Teaching hospitals?

If a nurse cannot read and or understand the information on their polling card…

No idea where Fleurpepper lives, but it says the nurse was in Milton Keynes. I don't think Oyster cards have reached there yet, do what is the talk about London Teaching hospitals?

Fleurpepper

Nurses have turned up to vote after long shifts with their NHS photo ID, in uniform, and turned away. Young people have been turned away as their Young People's travel card where not accepted. Apparently this has happened outside Polling station, so these will not be officiall registered in figures.

Was this in your area, Fleurpepper? Did you witness this?

The Mirror reported:
Voter ID rules that saw a nurse among those turned away at polling stations must be scrapped, ministers have been told.

Media reports must always be taken with a degree of scepticism, so we are told.

The nurse will remember next time, I hope, if it's a GE.

Blossoming

The low turnout is more of a worry to me. Why do people just not bother to vote?

It's always the same in local elections.

Then people complain about local decisions.

Foxygloves

^what nonsense, are you saying all nurses drive and have d driving licence?^
No, you will note I said “a nurse IF driving…”
If driving one should have one’s licence on one, and even if not, I expect most people keep it on their wallet as I do.
On the other hand, if the same nurse was trying to get home from their London teaching hospital and didn’t have their Oyster card on them, oh dear - no chance of getting on the bus!
Facts are facts

anecdotal did you say? Some people do live near hospitals and walk- I can assure you. I used to share a flat with many- all walked, one cycled. Yes London teaching hospital!

Yes. I wouldn't fancy that nurse reading what drugs I should or should not be given! 😲

what nonsense, are you saying all nurses drive and have d driving licence?
No, you will note I said “a nurse IF driving…”
If driving one should have one’s licence on one, and even if not, I expect most people keep it on their wallet as I do.
On the other hand, if the same nurse was trying to get home from their London teaching hospital and didn’t have their Oyster card on them, oh dear - no chance of getting on the bus!
Facts are facts

Fleurpepper

and that Left Wing rag, The Mirror

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nurse-stopped-voting-end-long-29898279

What’s more worrying is that nurses cannot understand the information on their polling cards…

and that Left Wing rag, The Mirror

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nurse-stopped-voting-end-long-29898279

Foxygloves

Fleurpepper

Nurses have turned up to vote after long shifts with their NHS photo ID, in uniform, and turned away. Young people have been turned away as their Young People's travel card where not accepted. Apparently this has happened outside Polling station, so these will not be officiall registered in figures.

Can you provide evidence for these instances?
A nurse, if driving, would have their licence on them. It was common knowledge that YP travel cards were insufficient (I am not arguing why or why not- just the FACT)
No, there is no excuse, photo ID was a legal requirement
End of.

Reported on several sites. 'A nurse, if driving ...'

what nonsense, are you saying all nurses drive and have d driving licence?

Blossoming

The low turnout is more of a worry to me. Why do people just not bother to vote?

And that makes it all the more surprising that people did turn up without i.d. . People who vote in local elections have some interest in politics presumably.

I like a fact or two.

‘How many people were turned away over voter ID?

People working inside polling stations had a legal duty to record how many people they refused to give a ballot paper to and why.

Anyone who left after being told by the greeters outside some polling stations that they needed ID will not have been counted.

Some returning officers have already announced how many people were turned away and how many came back. They are not necessarily announcing the reasons why they were turned away.

The returning officer in Lincoln said that 57 people were turned away for not having the correct ID, but 25 later returned with some.

The Electoral Commission, an independent body that oversees elections, is collating all this information. An initial report, to be published in the coming weeks, will include the proportion of people turned away from polling stations’

From BBC News.

dayvidg

About two thirds of eligible voters do not vote in local elections; about one third in general elections - possibly the 92% not taking up the opportunity of getting the free I.D. card had something to do with this? Also, why do the left assume that their potential supporters are either too ill-informed (or stupid) to be aware of the changes. This is the kind of attitude that cost Labour so dearly in the 'Red-wall' seats over recent times.

Spot on!

Calendargirl gives us first-hand evidence as a poll clerk at her local polling station.
Are you back in the UK at the moment then,Fleurpepper
Did this happen at your local polling station.
There will always be anecdotal “evidence”.

Best scrap the results for this election and organise a re run. It was only a rehearsal after all to see if voters understood id cards.

Fleurpepper

Nurses have turned up to vote after long shifts with their NHS photo ID, in uniform, and turned away. Young people have been turned away as their Young People's travel card where not accepted. Apparently this has happened outside Polling station, so these will not be officiall registered in figures.

Can you provide evidence for these instances?
A nurse, if driving, would have their licence on them. It was common knowledge that YP travel cards were insufficient (I am not arguing why or why not- just the FACT)
No, there is no excuse, photo ID was a legal requirement
End of.

About two thirds of eligible voters do not vote in local elections; about one third in general elections - possibly the 92% not taking up the opportunity of getting the free I.D. card had something to do with this? Also, why do the left assume that their potential supporters are either too ill-informed (or stupid) to be aware of the changes. This is the kind of attitude that cost Labour so dearly in the 'Red-wall' seats over recent times.

Calendargirl

I was a poll clerk at a little village hall yesterday.

The vast majority of voters were 40+ years old, I would imagine.

Voter I/D was absolutely no problem. Every single person produced driving licence, passport, bus pass, without prompting. No one had the Voter Certificate form, they all had other items,

Just one chap asked for it to be noted that he didn’t agree with having to, he wasn’t difficult or nasty, and realised it was a government ruling, but wanted his view recording.

I know if it were a General Election, there would be more younger voters who might not have the usual I/D forms, but then they just need to sort out a Voter Certificate beforehand.

If they are keen to vote, then it’s their responsibility to be prepared.

Totally agree

I was a poll clerk at a little village hall yesterday.

The vast majority of voters were 40+ years old, I would imagine.

Voter I/D was absolutely no problem. Every single person produced driving licence, passport, bus pass, without prompting. No one had the Voter Certificate form, they all had other items,

Just one chap asked for it to be noted that he didn’t agree with having to, he wasn’t difficult or nasty, and realised it was a government ruling, but wanted his view recording.

I know if it were a General Election, there would be more younger voters who might not have the usual I/D forms, but then they just need to sort out a Voter Certificate beforehand.

If they are keen to vote, then it’s their responsibility to be prepared.

Nurses have turned up to vote after long shifts with their NHS photo ID, in uniform, and turned away. Young people have been turned away as their Young People's travel card where not accepted. Apparently this has happened outside Polling station, so these will not be officiall registered in figures.

On a MN thread, at least one poster who has actually been a polling station official, has said that they’ve seen quite a bit of would-be fraud - people trying to vote for other family

Who says we have always been orderly and law-abiding?
Personally , if I have nothing to hide, I have no problem with ID - in the same way young people should show proof of age in pubs etc
And anybody who has not yet taken on board that photo ID was necessary clearly wasn’t paying that much attention to the election or election issues.