The police has apologised over the arrest of the republican group

Fleurpepper

Yes Braverman and co. And I am pretty sure the King is massively embarrassed about this, and has probably had w ord or will do, with our PM when they next meet.

😂

Records will be kept, facial recognition, profiles, and more.

The UK has never ever had a tradition of arresting people on suspicion.

Oreo

They did protest, didn’t you see them?
More were allowed to protest than were arrested, am glad police did what they thought was best at the time.
You aren’t, so what, we have different views on it.

That was for Fleurpepper btw

1. Tens of thousands of people attended the Coronation in London, and happily celebrated this occasion.
2. Some anti-Monarchists circulated in the crowd carrying "Not My King" placards, and were not prevented from lawful, peaceful protest.
3. A total of 64 arrest were made on the day. A mini-min-miniscule number in relation to the size of the crowds.
4. The Met has now expressed regret that perhaps the arrest of half a dozen or so of these might have been somewhat over-zealous.
5. No-one was hurt, and there was no major incident.
6.. Result!
7. Get over it...

NanaDana

I fully support the right to peaceful protest, provided it is non-violent, non-disruptive, and does not become a "public nuisance". So yes, it was most definitely a tough call for the Met on the day, for a once in a lifetime event for which tens of thousands of people had turned out and hoped to enjoy without undue interference. It appears that some protesters were carrying "lock-on devices" with which they could secure themselves to railings etc., plus, rape alarms were being distributed, which were going to be used to attempt to frighten the many horses involved in the parade. So in some ways for the police it was always going to be a case of "damned if you do, and damned if you don't". On that basis, I can quite understand why they may have erred on the side of being over-zealous, as to under-react could have threatened public safety. I suspect that the tens of thousands who turned out to enjoy the day would agree. Peaceful protest.. no problem. Anything beyond that, no thanks.

This, absolutely yes.

Additionally I have heard that the police only said they regret their actions over six of those arrested, not all of them. I think over fifty were arrested, and they were carrying paint, rape alarms, and glue. So how was any of that going to be used for a peaceful demonstration?

The police, damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Paint? What was this to be used for?
Rape alarms? To scare the horses and create a very dangerous situation for animals and humans alike, especially if horses pulling a carriage were spooked. Just imagine the injuries that could be caused.
Glue? To glue themselves to roads/railings? Would cause total mayhem.

Well done to our police for taking the right actions and keeping most people safe.
Another post on another thread states clearly that at least one bandsman was seriously injured as a result of a spooked horse, and that was without paint, rape alarms or glue!

Well said NanaDana!

The police have been accused in the past of not accessing the safety issues correctly, Hillsborough, Manchester Arena and many others, road closures and all sorts of inconvenience and disruption happens due to demonstrations and events.

Removing a few that were thought to be a threat is part of the job, if you get it wrong you apologize, well done the police.

I totally agree with you maddyone

‘The UK has never had a tradition of arresting people on suspicion’? What tosh. Try reading up on criminal law.
And I would love to know how you’re ‘pretty sure the King is massively embarrassed and has probably had a word with the PM, fleurpepper. More of the same.

Not on suspicion of protest.

Katie59

The police have been accused in the past of not accessing the safety issues correctly, Hillsborough, Manchester Arena and many others, road closures and all sorts of inconvenience and disruption happens due to demonstrations and events.

Removing a few that were thought to be a threat is part of the job, if you get it wrong you apologize, well done the police.

Totally agree

They weren’t arrested on suspicion of protest fp.

Agree Maddyone

Germanshepherdsmum

They weren’t arrested on suspicion of protest fp.

Some where, which is why the police has apologised.

Fleurpepper

Not on suspicion of protest.

If as you say they were arrested on suspicion of protest how do you explain that only a handful were arrested?

There were many many other protesters at various sites along the ceremonial route waving their placards and shouting their slogans…

Fleurpepper

Records will be kept, facial recognition, profiles, and more.

The UK has never ever had a tradition of arresting people on suspicion.

Never ever had a tradition of arresting people on suspicion? Quite the opposite. I think you'll find that every single arrest that has ever been made is ALWAYS based on suspicion that a crime may have taken or is about to take place. In fact, all that the Police need in order to make an arrest is to have "reasonable grounds" to suspect this. Sometimes, in fact quite often, they are subsequently unable to provide the burden of proof which would enable the C.P.S.to authorise charges which would then be upheld in court, so the suspect is then released. Why pretend that what happened on Saturday was in any way different from the standard process? It wasn't.

Not ‘on suspicion of protest’ fp. That is not a criminal offence.
Absolutely right GrannyGravy and NanaDana.

I am over it.

I am content that the police have understood that they made an idiotic error, and have almost certainly told the HO of its unworkability- the legislation as it stands is not fit for purpose, as the government was told before they rammed the legislation through last week.

Let us hope that they have the wit to re-visit it and sort it out in a manner that is neither authoritarian or unfit. I won’t hold my breath.

Fleurpepper
People were arrested because they might cause a protest.

Is that legal? I done know. Probably not. If not, that is an issue.

Dont get me wrong. I would have wanted a peaceful time at the coronation as much as the next person.

But there is an even bigger issue going on.
Are we a democracy or a totalitarian state?

I would have the law nuanced. Dont ask me how. I am not a lawyer.

But when police appear to not know how to interpret law, or perhaps not even know the law, there is a problem.
Where genuine police feel uncomfortable apparently, there is a problem.
If they were asked to go against the current law, [if they were and we dont know that], that is a problem.

It is enshrined in British Law, culture and tradition, that people have the right to peaceful protest- until Suella Braverman rushed in new legislation.

Listen to the person who was in charge of the protests, and who had been in consultation with the Met for months, with clear description of their intent, and the fact they were not carrying anything offensive or intending to lock.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-65523439

This has Suella Braverman's very heavy hand, it is clear. Apologising after holding people without charge for 16 hours- to ensure there is no protest at all is just not cricket- just not British at all, and has never been.

And had the anti-republicans protested, albeit peacefully against the anti-monarchy group spoiling the day, as they would be entitled to do, how would you have described the outcome?
Would the Republicans have celebrated, because there would’ve been more noise added to their noise, or irritated by people, protesting against their protest.
Fleurpepper I’m still puzzled by your to ensure there is no protest at all fits in with the protesters I saw, protesting vociferously.
Or was what I saw, a set up filmed by the Daily Mail and there weren’t really any protesters there at all?

MrsNemo

If your opinion is that Charles is 'Not my King', and you don't agree with the Monarchy, why not stay away? Did anyone think that the Coronation might be canceled because some don't want it to happen? People go to an event with the intent of disrupting it and spoiling it for others, and are then surpised and shocked to be arrested. The Police cannot win; if one of the protestors had flung something and a horse had been spooked - however well trained, some of them were jumpy on Saturday - and this had resulted in injury, that presumably would have been the fault of the Police for not stopping the protester. They have to make split second decisions and because of those decisions there were no casualties, and nobody was charged with anything either. I call that a win win, but of course it won't be seen that way by those who feel that shouting insults, banner waving and attempting to spoil the day is fine.

The only reason they were there was to distrust things. I’m very glad the police acted the way they did. Thousands of people were there to enjoy the day and not have it disrupted by Republicans.
I understand that megaphones are not allowed in certain areas and this might have had something to do with it because if they had started yelling they might well have spooked the horse. I’m very glad that the thousands of people who turned out to see the Coronation were able to do so with no disruptions. It was a wonderful day.
Republican Graham Smith is now taking legal action against the police, that should be interesting.

Yes, of course they were there to protest- as should be their right, and has always been in modern Britain, and enshirined in Law, until Braverman decided to go against it.

The Met has apologised for six arrests, not for all the arrests

Brian Tweeddale 14h
The Met has apologised for the wrongful arrest of the head of Republic. Today Keir Starmer proscribed Republic for Labour Party members. And its only Monday.

I'm not surprised Starner is authoritarian and Establishment. Just broke another pledge to end tuition fees. Labour and Tory same