The police has apologised over the arrest of the republican group

What the hell has Keir Starmer and tuition fees got to to with
the arrests on Saturday?

Grany you really have to accept Corbyn will not be back

People’s right to protest peacefully has not been removed. And as I have already said, the new legislation was not relied upon . It was abundantly clear from the television coverage that plenty of protesters remained.

Fleurpepper

Yes, of course they were there to protest- as should be their right, and has always been in modern Britain, and enshirined in Law, until Braverman decided to go against it.

There were many many protesters along the ceremonial route Fleurpepper which were there for all to see, both on broadcast media, YouTube and privately posted videos.

Nobody stopped these protesters, nobody confiscated their banners.

It is still lawful in the U.K. to protest peacefully, the new legislation is for those who are not part of the protest not to have their lives impinged by those protesting.

Like I posted previously it’s legal to protest it is illegal to disrupt, cause harm, endanger or frighten others by your actions…

Germanshepherdsmum

People’s right to protest peacefully has not been removed. And as I have already said, the new legislation was not relied upon . It was abundantly clear from the television coverage that plenty of protesters remained.

Yep, I need the banging my head against the wall emoji

Me too.

GrannyGravy13

Germanshepherdsmum

People’s right to protest peacefully has not been removed. And as I have already said, the new legislation was not relied upon . It was abundantly clear from the television coverage that plenty of protesters remained.

Yep, I need the banging my head against the wall emoji

That is not what the chief constable said this morning. People were arrested before they protested, peacefully or not. It was based on nothing.

The legislation passed last week is a mess - it needs revisiting.

Less authoritarianism and more common sense - that is of course if you believe in democracy and protest - noisy or not.

Banners were removed saw on video and protesters were warned would be arrested for saying Not My King.
More money poured into Republic campaign fund. And more signed petition for vote on monarchy

It was based on suspicion of what they intended to do, which was not peaceful protest.

Have you read the legislation? I have and see no ‘mess’. It’s a sensible extension of powers to deal with the damage and disruption that some protesters cause.

Germanshepherdsmum

It was based on suspicion of what they intended to do, which was not peaceful protest.

Have you read the legislation? I have and see no ‘mess’. It’s a sensible extension of powers to deal with the damage and disruption that some protesters cause.

“Mess” isn’t my word it is the chief constable’s and a Tory MP.

The police were in talks with those arrested months before the coronation, everyone had signed off content with what was going to happen.

There was a call from the HO, how else can you explain the total cock up, and subsequent apology from the police. The police acted without any recourse to law. The republicans had broken no law.

All that needs to happen now is for the police to make up a criminal act snd we will truly be in the realms of authoritarianism.

Plenty of protesters were free to protest so I don't know what all the fuss is about TBH.

And since GSM is a lawyer, I respect her opinion on the subject. She has read the legislation. How many of the others who are protesting this action have actually read the legislation?
I’m actually amazed that people are defending the actions of the protesters. Paint, rape alarms, and glue were not taken along for the purposes of peaceful protest. They were taken along in order to cause chaos and injury.

Thanks maddyone.
I share your amazement.

Oh I meant to say

Have you read the legislation? I have and see no ‘mess’. It’s a sensible extension of powers to deal with the damage and disruption that some protesters cause

Yes I have which is why I suspect that Braverman has interfered with operational decisions.
Part 2 subsection 30.

Bearing in mind the massive demands placed on the security services in responding to the unique challenge which monitoring all aspects of the Coronation presented, I would have been much more impressed if those who wished to protest had acknowledged that their planned activities around the ceremonial on the day posed a significant distraction to those who were involved in keeping everyone safe, and had therefore acted responsibly and arranged to have an entirely separate protest somewhere else, or perhaps on a different date. As a Republican myself, I would have felt much more comfortable with that. It must have been a security nightmare, and any diversion always presented risks.

I couldn’t give a toss about Braverman, I’m more concerned that everyone stayed safe, and mostly they did. Except for the unfortunate bandsman who was badly injured when a horse was spooked.

Whitewavemark2

Germanshepherdsmum

It was based on suspicion of what they intended to do, which was not peaceful protest.

Have you read the legislation? I have and see no ‘mess’. It’s a sensible extension of powers to deal with the damage and disruption that some protesters cause.

“Mess” isn’t my word it is the chief constable’s and a Tory MP.

The police were in talks with those arrested months before the coronation, everyone had signed off content with what was going to happen.

There was a call from the HO, how else can you explain the total cock up, and subsequent apology from the police. The police acted without any recourse to law. The republicans had broken no law.

All that needs to happen now is for the police to make up a criminal act snd we will truly be in the realms of authoritarianism.

You do seem a teensy bit obsessed with the Home Office.
So many comments about it on this thread and you’ve made up your mind that they’re the guilty party.
You don’t know any more than me if there was a call from the HO to police saying to arrest anyone. The police decided to act and remove six protesters.The rest went on their merry way, calling out and waving placards.

Germanshepherdsmum

Thanks maddyone.
I share your amazement.

I didnt realise that you were a criminal lawyer!? Of course if you aren’t I am sure you will have the grace to admit that your knowledge of the law is no more or less than any one else’s.

Many of us in our working lives operated under, worked with and imposuk law, and are very familier with the legal language , so it is no hardship reading legislation.

I expect you have also read s31 wwm. The Sec of State may only issue guidance to the police under s30 about serious disruption orders (see s20 et seq) if that guidance has been approved by parliament and not otherwise.

fancythat

*Is it legal to Protest? Protesting is legal in England and Wales, the right to protest is protected under the European Convention of Human Rights. However, this only applies to peaceful protest and does not extend to any violence inflicted or damage caused during a protest.*

I only got this from google.

It does not mention intent to protest non peacefully.

So what is the legality on that?

MaizieD

Germanshepherdsmum

Well said Forsythia. 👏👏👏

You're applauding a post in which the poster seems to have confused the anti monarchy protesters with climate change protestors.

Perhaps she'd like to give an example of the 'violence and fear' that can be proven to be caused by the Republic group, or the climate change protestors. Because I haven't seen any.

Can anyone also explain how a handful of protestors was going to ruin the pleasure of thousands of people?

And can people stop saying the coronation was a 'once in a lifetime' event. It was the second coronation in the lifetime of a great many Gnet posters and, given Charles's age, it's unlikely to be 'once in a lifetime' for many UK citizens...

Fact is I’m not as old as you clearly are so for me it was a once in a lifetime event. I’d never seen one before.

It was stated these individuals were going to set off rape alarms to spook the horses. Utterly unacceptable and dangerous. But in your view, their rights must always trump those of the majority.

Violence and fear. What about the moron recently throwing eggs at the King? Jolly japes eh? But it could have been worse couldn’t it. Who’s to know.

Today, people trying to take their kids to school in London are prevented from doing so because of more of these mindless protestors. Yes, a different lot but still equally selfish and moronic. Still, their rights are more important than kids trying to get to school, taxpayers trying to get to work.

If they’re on benefits, which I suspect they are as they never seem to work, they should be stopped immediately. I’m not funding their cretinous behaviour through my taxes.

Thank goodness there’s those on here that see this action for what it was, to disturb a huge event where everyone watching the procession were there to support the Royal Family.
I feel sorry for the police, they try to avoid trouble but are damned whatever they do, by people who love it.

fancythat

fancythat

*Is it legal to Protest? Protesting is legal in England and Wales, the right to protest is protected under the European Convention of Human Rights. However, this only applies to peaceful protest and does not extend to any violence inflicted or damage caused during a protest.*

I only got this from google.

It does not mention intent to protest non peacefully.

So what is the legality on that?

Did the people who did get to protest during the proceedings do anything violent or inflict any damage?

There's a long thread on twitter trying to sort out just what happened, though I don't suppose many people will bother to read it.

twitter.com/ProfColinDavis/status/1655555277150732290

And, for the avoidance of doubt, as the assumption has been made on this thread, I am NOT anti monarchist.

Neither am I, and I would not have been there myself. But it is enshrined in British culture and that people are allowed to protest.

I will take a look at the link MaizieD

'Nobody stopped these protesters, nobody confiscated their banners.'

not all were, but far too many were, and on vague suspicion and not for any kind of violent behaviour.