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Labour Lib Dem coalition

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Mollygo Tue 09-May-23 17:09:49

According to Sky News, KS has seven times refused to rule out a coalition if they’re short of a majority at the next election.
So he’s (according to what I read on GN,) proscribed Republic, and won’t refuse a coalition. Not bad for a day’s work.

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 17:12:10

I really hope this will happen and with the Greens too.

ronib Tue 09-May-23 17:44:54

Starmer apparently was asked about a coalition with the LibDems who have certain conditions attached to a coalition with Labour. Interesting times ahead.

MaizieD Tue 09-May-23 17:45:26

But he's always ruled out a coalition before.

Perhaps he's beginning to see sense.

Ilovecheese Tue 09-May-23 17:48:02

I would like the Greens involved as well.
They do seem to care about people other than those who go out to work.

Anniebach Tue 09-May-23 17:48:44

Perhaps he recalls Nick Clegg in the rose garden

Casdon Tue 09-May-23 17:51:19

It would certainly be a happier political marriage than the Tory/Lib Dem coalition, and the majority would be large. I can think of worse outcomes to the next general election.

Caleo Tue 09-May-23 17:51:32

Anything but Tories.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Tue 09-May-23 17:54:07

It's long been part of Labour Party doctrine that it's a Labour government or nothing and they don't do coalitions, so no great surprise there. If they were short of a majority after the next election I imagine they would first look at the feasibility of running a minority government as long as possible, like Harold Wilson in 1964 and 1974a, either calling a fresh election if they ran into trouble or arranging a confidence and supply agreement as James Callaghan did in the last year or so of his government. It's a tricky game to play though, and Starmer is no Harold Wilson with the wiles to carry that off.

I'm an advocate for proper PR, as we have in Scotland for local elections. I hope that would bring an end to the two-party machine system and introduce a wider range of opinion and more pragmatic legislation rather than one monolithic bloc ramming contentious legislation through by brute force. Never mind 'strong' government with compromise being a dirty word.

Anniebach Tue 09-May-23 17:59:05

True Starmer is no Wilson, Starmer can be trusted

BlueBelle Tue 09-May-23 18:04:00

Labour Lib Dem’s and green would be a dream

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 18:12:12


Labour Lib Dem’s and green would be a dream

Yes smile

Oreo Tue 09-May-23 18:13:04


Labour Lib Dem’s and green would be a dream

No! 😖

Oreo Tue 09-May-23 18:13:52

Labour will win on their own👍🏻

Casdon Tue 09-May-23 18:16:24


Labour will win on their own👍🏻

I hope so too, but a coalition would be better than this Tory government.

BlueBelle Tue 09-May-23 18:17:40

I hope so but I d rather a coalition that these clowns continuing

Mollygo Tue 09-May-23 18:17:44

Yep! One group declare that males can be female, one group that takes its funding from a firm selling puberty blockers for young children and one with a leader who can’t admit that no female has a penis.
I don’t want any more Tory government, but really, the choice isn’t that brilliant.

NanaDana Tue 09-May-23 18:21:36

I'm not a fan of coalition Governments, as they tend to be both unstable and short-lived. Labour have traditionally never been a fan of them, although of necessity, they have sometimes had to resort to them. Coalitions always involve a lot of wheeling and dealing between parties, which I would suggest detracts from a sharp focus on Government, and from the issues which are the most pressing. It can be quite convincingly argued that even a Coalition couldn't do much worse than the current incumbents, but an overall majority would be much preferred. We can but hope

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 18:24:15

You can call it 'wheeling and dealing' I'd call it intelligent cooperation if avoiding extremes. See saw extreme politics have been a disaster in UK for a long time.

Nothing can be more unstable, but sadly not short lived, than the current disaster and that of the past 12 years.

Anniebach Tue 09-May-23 18:32:04

A coalition government led to the past 12 years

Dickens Tue 09-May-23 19:06:18

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that the nation itself is - certainly at the moment - very much either Left or Right and those of us 'in the middle' who would be happy with a coalition, are a minority.

That's the impression I'm getting from SM sites.

We're not schooled in coalition government, it's not part of our tradition (apart, obviously, from the devolved governments).

I think it's sort of the usual, done-thing, for parties to play down the possibility of a coalition ahead of an election. In 2010, it was assumed that a Conservative - Liberal coalition was "highly unlikely", and one of the Lib-Dems was supposed to have insisted that they'd find it nigh on impossible to be part of a Conservative led coalition - or words to that effect. But - it happened!

If the recent local elections turn out to have been the usual "bloody nose" voting, and, come a GE, voters return back to their fold, it's not impossible that the Conservatives would again win, but without an overall majority. But I can't see how they could form a coalition with the other parties now - because of Brexit.

The current Conservative party's reign is though, I believe, over. I know there is a faction that believe 'bringing back Boris' will restore their fortunes, but I believe, and hope, they are mistaken. Brexit is "done" (in the sense that Johnson wanted it over and done with and out of the way) so goodness only knows what 'ticket' he'd ride back in on. Even Rees-Mogg acknowledged that “If we’re a grown-up party we cannot change leader again between now and an election.” As Tobias Ellwood said, "bombastic populism may rally a small base but does not appeal to the wider electorate whose support is needed to win elections.”

But, I've reached that age / stage where nothing much surprises me anymore, so...

Galaxy Tue 09-May-23 19:13:17

I suppose I would class myself as a centrist but I am a labour centrist, I am not and never will be a liberal Democrat. I would prefer a labour government, and that's what I am working for, so to speak.

Grantanow Wed 10-May-23 00:14:55

If things go on as they are Labour will be the largest Party but short of an absolute majority. Hence it's either coalition with some other Party or Parties or a confidence and supply arrangement. Either way involves compromises. PR might be on the cards but I think MPs might worry they would lose their seats in a revamped system.

MayBee70 Wed 10-May-23 01:03:28

Wouldn’t PR lead to us having coalitions in the future anyway?

MayBee70 Wed 10-May-23 01:08:05

Everyone says how great the Green Party is and I always make a point of listening to Caroline Lucas when she speaks in parliament: she’s very good. But, apart from wanting to rejoin the EU can anyone tell me what their actual policies are?