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Putin, Trump and Ukraine

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HousePlantQueen Sat 13-May-23 12:56:48

This is a terrifying prospect, a Trump win would be a disaster for all, not least because this would give a seal of approval to the kind of behaviour that most decent folk find abhorrent (racism, sexual abuse, fraud, cheating charities etc., etc). Behind all of this, (and Brexit) is people such as Bannerman. I just hope that the Republican party decide that he is too toxic, even for them, and that they let him go down for at least some of his many crimes.

nanna8 Sat 13-May-23 12:56:40

They need to ditch Biden and get a good strong leader for the Democrats to oppose Trump. I’m just betting Trump loves having Biden as his opposition, too easy for him.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-May-23 11:49:14

jane1956

well biden dosn't know what day it is unless prompted

Do you prefer Trump?

varian Sat 13-May-23 11:25:49

Trump has long been Putin's puppet. It is unlikely he would ever have won in 2016 without .massive help from Russia, especially online . It is likely that Putin has compromising material dating back many years.

jane1956 Sat 13-May-23 11:12:28

well biden dosn't know what day it is unless prompted

red1 Sat 13-May-23 11:08:52

both out of the same mould,a bad one. Why are people so stupid to follow them? History will give us an answer to that one!

maddyone Sat 13-May-23 11:03:52

OMG. I don’t know what to say. Please God that Trump doesn’t win the election.

nanna8 Sat 13-May-23 10:42:20

He’ll probably get a fair bit of support,too. He never did relate very well to Western Europe, much more comfortable with the dictators in the East and people like the North Koreans.

dogsmother Sat 13-May-23 07:19:46

Trump is a self serving disaster. If this what he thinks the people want to hear……

NanaDana Sat 13-May-23 07:15:45

Trump is already being described as "Putin's Puppet" by certain political commentators in the U.S.A... particularly after his recent refusal to say whether or not he wants Ukraine to win the war. He has also consistently refused to describe Putin as a war criminal, which is out of step with virtually all of the western Democracies. Trump is also very focused on America's traditional isolationist policy, underpinned by his frequent reference to the massive cost of supporting Ukraine, all of which could certainly win him votes. Putin will be rubbing his hands with glee at the thought of a Trump win, which would put massive pressure on European nations in continuing to support the defence of Ukraine. Trump has also previously seemed luke warm as to his interest in the NATO alliance, and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he could withdraw the U.S.A. from it, which would indeed be disastrous for us. Worrying times.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-May-23 06:23:03

Trump has indicated that if he wins the election, he will cease America’s involvement in the Ukraine war.

This must be now Putin’s focus. The war of attrition appeared to be extending into the foreseeable future for Putin , but now Trump has offered him a let out clause.

I suspect that Putin will be assisting Trump as much as he can to win the election.

This would be an utter disaster for Europe and the U.K.