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Putin, Trump and Ukraine

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Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-May-23 06:23:03

Trump has indicated that if he wins the election, he will cease America’s involvement in the Ukraine war.

This must be now Putin’s focus. The war of attrition appeared to be extending into the foreseeable future for Putin , but now Trump has offered him a let out clause.

I suspect that Putin will be assisting Trump as much as he can to win the election.

This would be an utter disaster for Europe and the U.K.

MayBee70 Sat 17-Jun-23 13:32:14

Fleurpepper

Where is the Russia report? Where is the info on bunga bunga parties with KGB agents, without security and against all official advice. Johnson is up to his neck in Russian dirty money and politics, and so few seem concerned, somehow.

I don’t think that many people understand that many current events have links to that. Brexit and even Ukraine.

Fleurpepper Sat 17-Jun-23 13:01:37

www.facebook.com/JonDanzigWrites/videos/1298316087766681

Fleurpepper Sat 17-Jun-23 12:59:36

Where is the Russia report? Where is the info on bunga bunga parties with KGB agents, without security and against all official advice. Johnson is up to his neck in Russian dirty money and politics, and so few seem concerned, somehow.

Fleurpepper Sat 17-Jun-23 08:38:32

You forgot Johnson in your title WWM2- up to his neck with Russian Oligarchs and their money laundering, and probably being blackmailed by Lebedev and co.

NanaDana Thu 15-Jun-23 10:53:20

Every move that Trump makes in relation to Putin seems to shout out that Vlad has a dossier on Donald, dating back many years, which if made public would burn Trump to the ground. He may try to dress his stance up as old-fashioned "America first" isolationism, and as a move which would save the Treasury billions... which it would... but at its root it's purely based on self-preservation. The man has no moral compass whatsoever, and will lie, mislead, dissemble, whatever it takes to pursue his own private, self-obsessed agenda. What worries me most is that Biden is not a strong candidate for re-election. Surely the Democrats can come up with someone more appropriate. They may have left it too late.

nanna8 Thu 15-Jun-23 09:55:03

A lot of people continue to support Trump. Another country, another way of looking at things. It just illustrates to me how very, very different the USA is from other parts of the world. The Southern Baptists are behind him and there are many of them, they have a lot of influence.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Jun-23 23:53:50

We knew someone who did but it used to slip and looked so false it was ridiculous. Poor man, he would have looked so much better without it.

I believe that Donald's bouffant hair is all his own, though.

As you were.

maddyone Wed 14-Jun-23 23:31:42

I cannot even begin to see what his devoted followers see in him.
Are we all missing something?
No, I think not!

My father in law used to wear a toupee. One Christmas we were playing Pictionary when a young guest had to draw a toupee. She didn’t know what it was and my father in law took her into another room and lifted up his toupee to show her.
She had to choose another card.

Anyway, as you were.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Jun-23 23:11:55

Sorry, please return to the OP.

I just hope that the Republican party decide that he is too toxic, even for them, and that they let him go down for at least some of his many crimes.

There are several Republicans who are speaking out against him now. Let's hope the tide is turning.
However, he appears to have an extremely devoted following in some sectors of the public.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Jun-23 22:58:32

😂😂😂
The Sewing Bee contestants were making garments from crocheted items this evening.
I'm sure one of them used Donald's toupee

They didn't win garment of the week.

Casdon Wed 14-Jun-23 22:13:47

Callistemon21

It's crocheted on!

I’m hoping that’s not your secret job, as Donald Trump’s toupee join crocheter- you could have told us before!

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Jun-23 22:09:35

It's crocheted on!

Casdon Wed 14-Jun-23 20:22:07

Callistemon21

MayBee70

He’s just been on tv again. Short of never having the news on what can I do to stop having to hear his voice which, quite frankly, nauseates me….

Mute.
How do I stop looking at him and his fingers and sideways cocking of his head?
Concentrate on crochet.

If he carries on being on TV I could get a whole blanket finished soon.

I get a toupee fixation when I watch him, sometimes I swear I can see the stitches.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Jun-23 20:19:06

MayBee70

He’s just been on tv again. Short of never having the news on what can I do to stop having to hear his voice which, quite frankly, nauseates me….

Mute.
How do I stop looking at him and his fingers and sideways cocking of his head?
Concentrate on crochet.

If he carries on being on TV I could get a whole blanket finished soon.

MayBee70 Wed 14-Jun-23 19:49:08

He’s just been on tv again. Short of never having the news on what can I do to stop having to hear his voice which, quite frankly, nauseates me….

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 14-May-23 18:37:42

The election will take place in November 2024. Let’s hope the war is over by then and of course that Trump won’t win - but I don’t underestimate Putin’s involvement in trying to make that happen, which is possibly why the wretched man made the statement.

Callistemon21 Sun 14-May-23 18:25:26

nanna8

They need to ditch Biden and get a good strong leader for the Democrats to oppose Trump. I’m just betting Trump loves having Biden as his opposition, too easy for him.

I like Biden but I'm inclined to agree, Nanna8

Keeping 🤞 something more will turn up to prevent Trump from running again but he has such support in the USA that things could turn very nasty if anything happens to prevent him.

maddyone Sun 14-May-23 18:16:09

vintage
The last coronation before the King’s was in 1952. Previous to that I believe George 6th was 1938. Transatlantic travel was much more difficult, although possible, on both these times. With so many other Heads of State attending the King’s coronation this time, and all travel being so much easier today, including the availability of private jets, Biden could certainly have made the effort, and it’s disappointing that he didn’t consider this event worth his time. I believe that it boils down to his republican sympathies, but of course, I maybe wrong. It can’t be his health as he visited Ireland only a couple of weeks previously, and as you said, attended the Queen’s funeral.

maddyone Sun 14-May-23 18:09:08

Thanks Whitewave.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 14-May-23 12:48:22

maddyone true. I take that remark back.

vintage1950 Sun 14-May-23 12:45:23

Regarding Biden, it doesn't seem to be the custom for US presidents to attend the coronation of a British king. Also, he did attend the late Queen's funeral and appeared at her lying-in-state, when he crossed himself as a sign of respect (being RC).

maddyone Sun 14-May-23 10:23:18

Do you prefer Trump?

With respect Whitewave one doesn’t have to prefer Trump if one doesn’t like Biden. I prefer neither of them. I don’t need to list reasons for disliking Trump, there are simply too many of them, and pretty much everyone in Britain agrees with them, but my reasons for not liking Biden are that he is rather old although that isn’t my main reason. My primary reason is that he appears to dislike Britain. The things he said in Ireland seemed to suggest dislike of Britain, followed by the snub of not coming to the King’s coronation does suggest to me some dislike. Sending his wife to represent him was very poor form in my opinion. She is not a political figure, merely his wife. She should not have been representing America at such a great state occasion in my opinion.

AGAA4 Sat 13-May-23 16:55:22

Trump still has many supporters. I just hope there are not enough to give him back the presidency. He will be helped by his friends in Russia. It's a frightening prospect for Ukraine and Europe.

Grantanow Sat 13-May-23 15:12:45

Truss got into power by telling the Tory faithful what they wanted to hear however brainless it was. Trump will attempt to do the same with his Republican base. If he gets in it will be a disaster for the US and the world, not only for his playing up to Putin but also for his lack of understanding of climate change.

Louella12 Sat 13-May-23 13:06:37

Someone needs to tell Biden , in the nicest possible way, that he needs to stand aside.