Strictly Cheese Sandwiches

DH prefers Scott's Porage Oats!
I have Nairns if at all.

growstuff

Callistemon21

PepsiCo make various soft drinks, snacks, crisps, Quaker oats.

Quaker Oats?

How did I not realise that Quaker Oats was a big American food and drink manufacturer? I thought it was just a brand of porridge oats.

A friend's daughter went to a Quaker school.

In the introductory talk about Quakers, one of the first questions is about famous Quakers. The children were shown a packet of Quaker oats and a bar of Cadbury chocolate and asked which one they associated with Quakers.

Quaker has always been a homely sounding brand name to sell American oats.

A friend's daughter went to a Quaker school

My Headmistress was a Quaker but never mentioned it, nor were assemblies based Quaker beliefs although we had to have five minutes' silence at assembly each morning. However, I think that had started before she arrived as HM.

She never mentioned porridge!!

growstuff, I thought of responding to your last post, but it is so clear that you have not bothered to read my posts throughly and quote what I actually said, rather than what you assume I probably said, that there seems no point.

It's OK. I hadn't been in one for years, but my partner loves them and drags me in with him. Just pointing out that you're exaggerating when you claim everybody eats cake with their coffee. I don't - and I've noticed there are others who don't eat anything either.

Yes, people should be aware that there are people who are are poor, comfortably off and rich. My gripe is that I have lost count of the threads I've read on GN where food poverty is being discussed, but people dismiss it with anecdotes about how everybody eats snack and rubbish food - as if it's only the poor who stuff their faces with less nutritious food (well, we all know how feckless they are, don't we?) Everybody? No! Are the people who note how many people walk along with crisps and sausage rolls the same ones who are shopping trolley snoopers?

growstuff I think we are all aware that poor, comfortably off, and rich people live in every society and have different living patterns.

I do not frequent coffee shops and can only go on what the people at the tables outside and in the windows are doing as I walk past, and they are almost always eating as well as drinking.

PS. It's not true that no-one only has a cup of coffee in a coffee shop. If I am taken to one (I wouldn't ever go on my own), I don't have anything to eat - ever. I don't drink the fancy calorie-laden coffees either.

M0nica

Of course they do, they fly of the shelves. For all our real concern for those in food need, far more people have enough money to waste buying snacks at petrol stations for example - there is a reason the walk from door to till is lined with sweets and crisps - and watch the customers picking them up, plus a canned drink. Hardly anyone just buys petrol and nothing else these days. Parents greet children at the school gates with packets of savoury snacks, people walk down shopping streets window shopping and chewing. Every other shop is a coffee shop with a good selection of cakes, sandwiches and treats. Again no one, just has a cup of coffee.

Just because so many buy this rubbish food and takeaway coffees, does not help those who genuinely can't afford to make cheese sandwiches. Just because they're in the minority doesn't mean they don't exist - people just don't see them because they don't see beyond those stuffing their faces with snacks.

Callistemon21

^PepsiCo make various soft drinks, snacks, crisps, Quaker oats^.

Quaker Oats?

How did I not realise that Quaker Oats was a big American food and drink manufacturer? I thought it was just a brand of porridge oats.

A friend's daughter went to a Quaker school.

In the introductory talk about Quakers, one of the first questions is about famous Quakers. The children were shown a packet of Quaker oats and a bar of Cadbury chocolate and asked which one they associated with Quakers.

Quaker has always been a homely sounding brand name to sell American oats.

PepsiCo make various soft drinks, snacks, crisps, Quaker oats.

Quaker Oats?

How did I not realise that Quaker Oats was a big American food and drink manufacturer? I thought it was just a brand of porridge oats.

Of course they do, they fly of the shelves. For all our real concern for those in food need, far more people have enough money to waste buying snacks at petrol stations for example - there is a reason the walk from door to till is lined with sweets and crisps - and watch the customers picking them up, plus a canned drink. Hardly anyone just buys petrol and nothing else these days. Parents greet children at the school gates with packets of savoury snacks, people walk down shopping streets window shopping and chewing. Every other shop is a coffee shop with a good selection of cakes, sandwiches and treats. Again no one, just has a cup of coffee.

We don't purchase snacks, however I read PepsiCo do £1 price-marked packs - Cheetos Footballs / Funyuns Onion Flavour Rings.

Somebody must buy these expensive crisps.

A cheese sandwich, especially with some salad or accompanied by a piece of fruit would be far more nutritious, but sadly more expensive.

that than

Yes, prices up, profits ok, selling less that necessary products.

Funny old world.

M0nica

Yes, Pepsico make lots of foods manufactured from Ultra Processed ingredients, take the fat out, add lots of sweeteners and lots of modified corn products and the 100 names for Palm oil and you will do as much damage to people's health and accelerate obesity as if you sat in the street feeding people butter icing all day (made with real sugar, butter and nothing else.

I agree. I looked at the list of Pepsico snacks. The population would survive just fine without ever consuming a Pepsico snack and would be a lot healthier.

The "food" they produce is some mix of ultra-processed chemicals. The proportions are tweaked to meet various regulatory guidelines and then marketed as "healthy".

Yes, Pepsico make lots of foods manufactured from Ultra Processed ingredients, take the fat out, add lots of sweeteners and lots of modified corn products and the 100 names for Palm oil and you will do as much damage to people's health and accelerate obesity as if you sat in the street feeding people butter icing all day (made with real sugar, butter and nothing else.

I read an article in NYTimes this morning explaining how/why PepsiCo raised prices 16% in the first quarter - fascinating. Seems to me this food corporation may be doing well, selling less than necessary food.

Partial quote: "PepsiCo Inc (PEP.O) raised its annual forecasts on Tuesday after price hikes undertaken to offset higher costs and steady demand helped the soda and snack giant beat first-quarter results.

The results pointed to a resilient consumer and followed similar quarterly performances by rival Coca-Cola (KO.N) and Nestle (NESN.S). PepsiCo's shares rose 2% in early trading. Average prices jumped 16% in the first quarter, PepsiCo said, while organic volume slipped 2%."

PepsiCo make various soft drinks, snacks, crisps, Quaker oats.

They are "evolving our portfolio to be better for both planet and people. We recently announced a new ambition that by 2025, half of our snacks sales will come from products that do not classify as high in fat, salt or sugar or from products sold in portions of 100 calories or less."

choughdancer

Brilliant thank you Norah!

To everyone, I apologise for helping to take this discussion off topic.

You're welcome.

Most threads wander, nature of the beast.

IF anyone learns anything from any thread - great!

Brilliant thank you Norah!

To everyone, I apologise for helping to take this discussion off topic.

Dinahmo

Norah I'm now guessing that you are American. The clues - kosher salt, scallions and broiler. I often watch the Barefoot Contessa and she mentions those items quite often.

Sorry folks, we have gone off topic but it's still interesting and perhaps more enlightening?

I pay, on-line, American Bon Appetit. Fantastic easy recipes.

I also pay for American NYTimes. World news at it's finest, imo.

Norah I'm now guessing that you are American. The clues - kosher salt, scallions and broiler. I often watch the Barefoot Contessa and she mentions those items quite often.

Sorry folks, we have gone off topic but it's still interesting and perhaps more enlightening?

choughdancer Do you have some suggestions or links to recipes that you recommend

I transferred some by PM. This is a favoutite and would not transfer. Easy easy easy, cheap, tasty. I'll paste it here.

Sheet-Pan Orange Tofu and Broccoli
BY ZAYNAB ISSA

4 servings

1-14-oz. block extra-firm tofu, drained
3Tbsp. cornstarch, divided
1tsp. Diamond Crystal or ½ tsp. Morton kosher salt, plus more
1medium head of broccoli, crown cut into 2"–3" florets, stem peeled, cut into ¾" pieces
Freshly ground pepper
2Tbsp. extra-virgin olive oil
Zest and juice of 1 orange
2scallions, white and pale green and dark green parts separated, thinly sliced
5garlic cloves, finely grated
¼cup low-sodium soy sauce
1Tbsp. plus 1½ tsp. honey (we avoid honey and use sugar)
1Tbsp. unseasoned rice vinegar
1–2tsp. sriracha
2tsp. toasted sesame oil

Steamed jasmine rice and toasted sesame seeds (for serving)

Preparation

Step 1
Preheat oven to 425°. Wrap one 14-oz. block extra-firm tofu, drained, in a few layers of paper towels and place on a rimmed baking sheet. Weigh down with something heavy, such as a cast-iron skillet, and let sit 10 minutes.

Step 2
Unpack and unwrap tofu, then transfer to a medium bowl and tear into 1½"–2" pieces. Add 2 Tbsp. cornstarch and 1 tsp. Diamond Crystal or ½ tsp. Morton kosher salt; toss to coat. Transfer tofu to a large rimmed baking sheet and push to one side. Add 1 medium head of broccoli, crown cut into 2"–3" florets, stem peeled, cut into ¾" pieces, to other side; season with salt and freshly ground pepper. Drizzle 2 Tbsp. extra-virgin olive oil over broccoli and tofu and toss to coat. Roast until broccoli is charred in spots and tofu is pale golden, 30–35 minutes.

Step 3
Heat broiler. Broil broccoli and tofu until tofu is slightly darkened, about 3 minutes.

Step 4
Meanwhile, whisk remaining 1 Tbsp. cornstarch and ¼ cup water in a small saucepan until cornstarch is dissolved. Add zest and juice of 1 orange, 2 scallions, white and pale green parts thinly sliced, 5 garlic cloves, finely grated, ¼ cup low-sodium soy sauce, 1 Tbsp. plus 1½ tsp. honey, 1 Tbsp. unseasoned rice vinegar, and 1–2 tsp. sriracha, depending on your heat preference, and whisk to combine. Place saucepan over medium-high heat and cook, whisking constantly, until glaze is bubbling around edges and thick and glossy, about 3 minutes. Remove from heat and stir in 2 tsp. toasted sesame oil.

Step 5
Pour glaze over broccoli and tofu; toss to coat. Serve over steamed jasmine rice, topped with thinly sliced dark green parts of 2 scallions and toasted sesame seeds.

choughdancer

Norah

choughdancer

I really dislike the texture of tofu.

Once it is pureed into the sauce, it is just a creamy texture. I'm not too keen on it straight, but use it in making sauces, Jamie Oliver's chocolate pots, and to give a curry, that I cook for a local project every week, more protein and a creamier texture. .

We don't eat tofu straight out of the box. We use it in 10s of ways, all with spices, marinades, herbs - as one would meat,, in sauces and in desserts. People generally don't eat meat, fish, poultry, jambon, eggs raw, do they?

I definitely want to explore the possibilities Norah!

Recently someone made slices of tofu marinaded in olive oil, soy sauce and paprika, then cooked in the oven and it was delicious! Although I've been vegan for a long time I have never really used it apart from the ways I mentioned, but this really made me want to try other ways of cooking it.

Do you have some suggestions or links to recipes that you recommend Norah?

I'll pm you recipes using tofu.

Norah

choughdancer

I really dislike the texture of tofu.

Once it is pureed into the sauce, it is just a creamy texture. I'm not too keen on it straight, but use it in making sauces, Jamie Oliver's chocolate pots, and to give a curry, that I cook for a local project every week, more protein and a creamier texture. .

We don't eat tofu straight out of the box. We use it in 10s of ways, all with spices, marinades, herbs - as one would meat,, in sauces and in desserts. People generally don't eat meat, fish, poultry, jambon, eggs raw, do they?

I definitely want to explore the possibilities Norah!

Recently someone made slices of tofu marinaded in olive oil, soy sauce and paprika, then cooked in the oven and it was delicious! Although I've been vegan for a long time I have never really used it apart from the ways I mentioned, but this really made me want to try other ways of cooking it.

Do you have some suggestions or links to recipes that you recommend Norah?

as one would eat meat, or in