Braverman attempts a cover up.

Casdon that’s your personal fantasy.

I do actually feel slightly sorry for Sunak, he’s caught between a rock and a hard place. What I’m in no doubt about though is that there will be more major embarrassments for him very soon with Sue-Ellen, she has now used at least seven of her nine lives, and that in the end he will have no option but to ‘let her go’.

MaizieD some codes have been broken along the lines… time to trace the fault line?
Rwanda - SB with Cherie Blair set up a charity. Won’t you have fun with that one?

Well, panic over. Sunak has (without consulting his Ethics Adviser) decided that Braverman has not breached the Ministerial Code.

So that's alright then, isn't it...

Where her long, undeclared, association with Rwanda stands I don't know...

Oh, some would maddy, I have no doubt.

Well said GSM.
What if it had been the King? Would posters have expected him to attend a public re education course?

If you mean asking about a one on one course Maremia, a lot of high profile people have them and the companies running the courses actually offer them so as to avoid other attendees being distracted by the famous person in their midst. It’s entirely within ‘the rules’. As I must have already said twice on here.

It was never about the actual speeding charge. It is about who is allowed to be above the rules, and it looks as if our Home Secretary, in charge of Law and Order, may do as she pleases.

The enquiry has already happened here on GN and SB has been found guilty on all counts. The outcome on here was never in doubt, whatever official decision was made.
(I have no detailed knowledge of the ministerial code, nor any liking for SB, so cannot comment on either. )
Now it’s time to start on Rishi Sunak who has said she didn’t break the ministerial code.
We could discuss that for several pages. Shall we question his knowledge?
Shall we hunt up all the evidence of other politicians who have been speeding and may or may not have made undiscovered private arrangements?

Just been announced, SB is not going to face any charges. So it’s all over, nothing to see here folks.

Golly Primrose, that's a very strange post " looked like a wolf with blood dripping from her mouth..." surely not..

Suella Braverman is not going to be getting her P45, the witch hunt failed 😊

Just over usually means the difference between injury/serious injury or death, or stopping in time to avoid an accident.

There is never “just over” for the victims.

There is zero excuse for speeding.

Primrose53

MaddyB

Honestly guys! Can you imagine how many famous people get speeding tickets and we never see them on Zoom courses or live courses. Of course Suella asked if she could do the course privately. And she is very very busy - trying her best for OUR country. I can’t believe how much attention this is getting when there are so so many more important issues.

People need to remember that Labour’s Harriet Harman has been caught speeding several times. Once when she was doing 99 mph and once when she was Solicitor General. She was given a ban for about 4 DAYS plus a fine and there was outcry at the time about such a lenient sentence!

Going at speeds like that she would not be eligible for an online course. I am guessing SB was just over, like myself. I was doing 34 in a 30.

I can’t believe that after so many posts, and so much information about why this is an issue, you still don’t get the point Primrose53. Many MPs speed, like the rest of the population, take it on the chin and it’s a momentary news story. This is not about the speeding!

MaddyB

Honestly guys! Can you imagine how many famous people get speeding tickets and we never see them on Zoom courses or live courses. Of course Suella asked if she could do the course privately. And she is very very busy - trying her best for OUR country. I can’t believe how much attention this is getting when there are so so many more important issues.

People need to remember that Labour’s Harriet Harman has been caught speeding several times. Once when she was doing 99 mph and once when she was Solicitor General. She was given a ban for about 4 DAYS plus a fine and there was outcry at the time about such a lenient sentence!

Going at speeds like that she would not be eligible for an online course. I am guessing SB was just over, like myself. I was doing 34 in a 30.

😄😄😄.

There will be more.

Your excitement will be fit to burst soon.

Oreo

Saetana

As I understand it, she asked a civil servant a question - and someone clearly wants her hung, drawn and quartered for it. This happened last year, she wasn't even Home Secretary at the time, the timing of this leak is extremely suspicious. If they were so concerned then why was the issue not raised when it actually happened? The knives are out for Braverman, just like they were for Raab. She made no attempt to avoid the penalty, as I understand it courses are potentially offered to people who have only broken the speed limit by a small amount - if it was anything more serious she would have been in court. Some celeb lawyer says he has arranged private courses for his well known clients, so its not unheard of. David Baddiel did the group Zoom course and was recognised by another participant - he tweeted about it yesterday - so clearly she was concerned about being recognised. When a private course was not possible, she paid the fine and took the 3 points.

No idea where you get the idea from that she asked civil servants to collude in a cover up - haven't heard a thing about that anywhere, and this has been all over the news for the last two days. What a waste of time - with everything going on in the country, and elsewhere, this is complete trivia!

This is the best common sense post on the thread.👏🏻👏🏻

Totally agree!

Someone has sat on this “news” since last year and has revealed it now hoping to cause maximum damage.

I just watched some Labour woman on TV giving her verdict on this and her eyes were sparkling and she was positively drooling with excitement that SB could be in trouble even though the presenters were explaining to her that all SB did was ASK if she could take a private course. It was not pleasant watching this woman as she looked like a wolf with blood dripping from her mouth.

Only 16% of those polled approve of Braverman. (Yougov)

Her ratings are plummeting.

What those suggesting a witch hunt etc are overlooking is that it is the Tories who are leading the charge.

I agree Oreo. Talk about a witch hunt.

MaddyB

Oreo

I think some people need to get a life.

I’m sorry if you don’t have one Oreo, it must be tough.

I think some people need to get a life.

Oreo

Saetana

As I understand it, she asked a civil servant a question - and someone clearly wants her hung, drawn and quartered for it. This happened last year, she wasn't even Home Secretary at the time, the timing of this leak is extremely suspicious. If they were so concerned then why was the issue not raised when it actually happened? The knives are out for Braverman, just like they were for Raab. She made no attempt to avoid the penalty, as I understand it courses are potentially offered to people who have only broken the speed limit by a small amount - if it was anything more serious she would have been in court. Some celeb lawyer says he has arranged private courses for his well known clients, so its not unheard of. David Baddiel did the group Zoom course and was recognised by another participant - he tweeted about it yesterday - so clearly she was concerned about being recognised. When a private course was not possible, she paid the fine and took the 3 points.

No idea where you get the idea from that she asked civil servants to collude in a cover up - haven't heard a thing about that anywhere, and this has been all over the news for the last two days. What a waste of time - with everything going on in the country, and elsewhere, this is complete trivia!

This is the best common sense post on the thread.👏🏻👏🏻

I wish people would read the thread before they made comments. She did ask civil servants to cover up. I posted this yesterday:

in Parliament session Yvette Cooper said:
‘She refused to say what she asked civil servants to do, so I ask her that again, and to also tell us whether she authorised her special adviser to tell journalists that there wasn't a speeding penalty when there was," she asks.
Ms Braverman replies, almost exhaustedly, that she was speeding last year.
"I regret that. I paid the fine. I accepted the points. At no time, did I seek to avoid the sanction. What is serious here is the priority of the British people," she says.’
(Sky News).

The Mirror were on to this denial of the speeding fine in April, and there’s a transcript of the conversation with the Special Advisor on their site. It’s also reported in lots of other media.

It’s been further reported on today.

Really, Labour is making a mountain out of a molehill! She accepted the ticket for speeding paid the fine. Even the Guardian news reviewer saw yhat it is a Labour attempt to make something out of nothing. We sll know Labour will be in power next year. I look forward to how labour will wave a magic wand and everything will be great! I am waiting to see if the doctors carry on their demand for 29% payrise. I see Chris Bryant may step down ftom the Labour front bench so how about we discuss that. And then there is the SNP with Volver et al not prepared to talk about their quest for independence. They make the excuse of sub judice. Doesnt seem to stop
The newspapers. I hope the Labour party is successful in Scotland. It can only be better than SNP. It is time for national
change! It keeps a democracy healthy. Do not vote liberal democrat. They do not know that women do not have penises!