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Attack in France

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maddyone Thu 08-Jun-23 11:22:48

I’ve just seen this on the news. Eight children stabbed in a park in France. How awful. Is this a terrorist attack do you think, or the attack of a mentally ill person?

tickingbird Thu 08-Jun-23 15:10:49

The racism in here is breathtaking since its very very possible is that he had v severe MH problems.

Toddlers stabbed and someone’s only concern is racism. So predictable.

Sago Thu 08-Jun-23 15:13:35

Wyllow3

The racism in here is breathtaking since its very very possible is that he had v severe MH problems.

But people are attributing it to his race without any further information as to his state of mind.

White people do this sort of stuff and we don't interrogate whether they were Christians and what about their faith and so on.

Try telling that to the parents.

growstuff Thu 08-Jun-23 15:21:29

Sago

Wyllow3

The racism in here is breathtaking since its very very possible is that he had v severe MH problems.

But people are attributing it to his race without any further information as to his state of mind.

White people do this sort of stuff and we don't interrogate whether they were Christians and what about their faith and so on.

Try telling that to the parents.

Hmm ... I wonder what the parents of the children killed in Dunblane would say.

AGAA4 Thu 08-Jun-23 15:26:08

It's easy to blame appalling acts of violence on MH issues because we find it hard to believe there are truly evil people in the world.

rafichagran Thu 08-Jun-23 15:33:45

Whatever this person race, it dies not excuse this sort if horrendous violence.
Yes he may have MH problems, but this is not a reason to kill,maim or hurt children.
I have MH, but do not use it as a excuse for the way I act. I have to take personnel responsibility for myself. I have a responsibility to get the help I need.
My sympathy goes to the young children.

tickingbird Thu 08-Jun-23 16:04:23

Hmm ... I wonder what the parents of the children killed in Dunblane would say.

What does that comment even mean? What would you expect them to say? I don’t recall anyone rushing to excuse the monster responsible on MH grounds.

Mamardoit Thu 08-Jun-23 16:07:47

Was that comment called for? It was certainly below the belt
I don't care what colour, religion he has or doesn't have, or about any mental health issues. He committed an evil act on babies and an old man.
It is a fact that if he had remained in Syria those poor victims and their families would be safely getting on with their lives now.

DiamondLily Thu 08-Jun-23 16:08:59

He was shouting that he was a Christian, and there were no terrorism markers. He had no history of mental illness (according to the BBC).

It's unclear what caused this, as he has a child the same age as those he attacked.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12173067/Eight-children-stabbed-knifeman-French-playground-attacker-subdued.html

Mamardoit Thu 08-Jun-23 16:09:03

Sorry I don't appear to have quoted the correct post!

Sago Thu 08-Jun-23 16:13:59

I cannot believe the posters that immediately jump to the defence of the perpetrator.
It was a truly evil act by an evil coward.
Whatever his race or creed, he is evil.

Witzend Thu 08-Jun-23 16:18:56

Utterly horrendous. It was even the first thing mentioned by the bloke on the checkout at Asda earlier.
Yes, according to the BBC website he had refugee status in Sweden, but because he already had that, was refused the same in France.

CountessFosco Thu 08-Jun-23 16:24:09

We used to live near there so were frequent visitors to this lovely, tranquil [under normal circumstances] town. It defies belief that it could happen anywhere to such vulnerable, young toddlers but one would never expect it to occur in such an idyllic setting. But naturally, it can and does happen anywhere.
How awful for those fighting for their lives, whatever age.
We have pic-nicked in this park on several occasions.

Spinnaker Thu 08-Jun-23 16:25:49

Sago

I cannot believe the posters that immediately jump to the defence of the perpetrator.
It was a truly evil act by an evil coward.
Whatever his race or creed, he is evil.

This exactly - well said Sago

If the reports that he was shot in the legs are true, then all I can say is that it's a pity there wasn't a bullet to his head. There will now be goodness knows how much spent on him in his defence - what defence, there is none !!

Wyllow3 Thu 08-Jun-23 16:27:33

Tickingbird have I said anything to indicate I don’t care about the children? Or the families?

farview Thu 08-Jun-23 16:29:10

Surely then if he does have MH problems...someone somewhere should have known to what extent and he shouldn't have been out in the community...
He had the weapon on him so he intended to do something horrific...
Praying that all those children and the two adults survive...

AGAA4 Thu 08-Jun-23 16:34:49

This man had no criminal record or psychiatric history. He has been branded a coward for attacking tiny children.

Callistemon21 Thu 08-Jun-23 16:35:03

Sago

I cannot believe the posters that immediately jump to the defence of the perpetrator.
It was a truly evil act by an evil coward.
Whatever his race or creed, he is evil.

Me neither, Sago

It is not racist to say he is a Syrian refugee now with Swedish nationality, it is stating a fact.

Pure evil at work here.

growstuff Thu 08-Jun-23 16:35:59

tickingbird

^Hmm ... I wonder what the parents of the children killed in Dunblane would say.^

What does that comment even mean? What would you expect them to say? I don’t recall anyone rushing to excuse the monster responsible on MH grounds.

It means that I don't remember anybody commenting on the ethnic background of the perpetrator.

Joseann Thu 08-Jun-23 16:41:45

I'm watching the news direct as it rolls here in France. I think the children are now out of the operating theatre. The psychologists are saying that an attack on innocent children shows he wanted to exercise power, but he had no previous psychiatric issues.

margauxbordeaux Thu 08-Jun-23 16:43:24

Fou translates to Maniac !

Grantanow Thu 08-Jun-23 16:44:58

Mentally ill people who kill or act violently are not 'evil' and his immigration status would not be relevant either. He is likely to need custodial treatment in a secure institution. If he is not mentally ill then he is likely to go to prison in France: immediate deportation to Syria would not be an option.

ronib Thu 08-Jun-23 16:46:28

I thought one news channel said that the perpetrator had a 3 year old and that his marriage had broken down. Also his family were living in Sweden.
It highlights how dire the life of a refugee can become for this man to have committed this terrible senseless act on innocent children. I wonder what support services were available to him in France?

pascal30 Thu 08-Jun-23 16:47:10

It appears that he was separated from his Swedish wife and 3 year old son, and was homeless..

Joseann Thu 08-Jun-23 16:50:18

According to a press conference being held now, the little children have been hospitalised in Grenoble and Geneva. Their condition is fragile and serious.

Wyllow3 Thu 08-Jun-23 16:51:52

Some thoughtful posts here. It’s natural both to feel shock and grief but want to understand ‘why?’
I agree grantanow btw.