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Poor Nadine !

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varian Fri 09-Jun-23 17:54:02

Nadine Dorries was the most utterly loyal Boris Johnson supporter and yer she has no received her due reward- s a peerage in the resignation honours.

Poor Nadine!

ronib Wed 14-Jun-23 21:14:37

I am more confused than ever. It now seems that Bernard Jenkin also broke the rules over Covid and social gatherings. BJ has written to Harriet Harman to ask if she had checked on the people sitting in judgment. The letter is on the Guido Fawkes website. Crazy way to conduct an enquiry?

Siope Wed 14-Jun-23 21:12:21

Dorries appears to be unretiring. twitter.com/nadinedorries/status/1669060242552811520?s=46&t=cR0Pa_B5bkzj2u6O2LXngQ and following tweets.

GrannyRose15 Wed 14-Jun-23 21:03:19

•MaisieD• and I thought we were doing so well.

I do not like the way a democratically elected leader has been drummed out of parliament. I do not think that those who sat in judgement on him were unbiased. I do not like the fact that there is no appeal against their findings. I think that all this business is a threat to our democracy.

I am concerned that in their loathing of one man parliamentarians have overstepped what is right and just.

If I resort to a little levity while trying to express my very deep concern then it is only to maintain my own sanity.

MaizieD Wed 14-Jun-23 20:31:38

GrannyRose15

How many MPs were misled by any of Boris Johnson’s statements. Please name one.

Yu know, GrannyRose, you complain about not being able to have a serious discussion about different points of view and then you come up with this egregious nonsense.

Whether or not the PMs were misled (which I doubt that many were because they nearly all know that Johnson lies continually and fluently and has only a very distant acquaintance with the truth) but lying to Parliament is a breach of the Ministerial code and contemptuous of Parliamentary conventions.

Additionally, MP's lies are recorded in Hansard, which is a practically verbatim account of all parliamentary proceedings. Hansard is used extensively by historians, and others, and what MPs say in Parliament is taken to be the truth. That is why MPs who have told an untruth are asked to correct the record (Hansard). When MPs lie in Parliament they are not only misleading MPs, they are misleading voters, interested international observers , academic researchers and anyone else who expects to learn the truth from the parliamentary record.

If you think that lying to Parliament isn't important it really isn't worth engaging with you.

Casdon Wed 14-Jun-23 20:10:27

GrannyRose15

Siope

It’s desperation, along with his submission to the Committee at 11.57 on Monday. And it’s irrelevant. Johnson is not being penalised for lockdown breaches, but for deliberately or recklessly misleading Parliament.

Which he didn’t do and the committee knows he didn’t do.

Which he did do and the committee has written evidence from numerous sources to prove he did. You are deluding yourself GrannyRose15.

GrannyRose15 Wed 14-Jun-23 20:08:34

How many MPs were misled by any of Boris Johnson’s statements. Please name one.

GrannyRose15 Wed 14-Jun-23 20:07:31

Siope

It’s desperation, along with his submission to the Committee at 11.57 on Monday. And it’s irrelevant. Johnson is not being penalised for lockdown breaches, but for deliberately or recklessly misleading Parliament.

Which he didn’t do and the committee knows he didn’t do.

Siope Wed 14-Jun-23 18:57:50

It’s desperation, along with his submission to the Committee at 11.57 on Monday. And it’s irrelevant. Johnson is not being penalised for lockdown breaches, but for deliberately or recklessly misleading Parliament.

Wyllow3 Wed 14-Jun-23 18:49:56

(was replying to Grantanow )

Wyllow3 Wed 14-Jun-23 18:49:13

all.

ronib Wed 14-Jun-23 18:48:09

Grantanow
Revenge?
And if rules were broken, why not face the consequences?

Grantanow Wed 14-Jun-23 18:42:06

Now Johnson claims Jenkin broke the rules. Is this deny, distract, diffuse, deride, deflect and distance?

Ramblingrose22 Wed 14-Jun-23 14:53:09

If I was so keen on becoming a peer I'd check out the process myself rather than trust other people to tell me and to do it in a timely way.

But she's so desperate and so credulous that she believed her hero and just let things slide.

A dumb and lazy person like this doesn't deserve a highly paid sinecure for life.

Apart from that, even if all had gone to plan, I doubt if she'd be the first person of "humble" origins to be given a seat in the HofL. Her a trailblazer......I just can't stop laughing!

Siope Wed 14-Jun-23 08:46:31

Damn autocorrect.

Siope Wed 14-Jun-23 08:45:28

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Freya5 Wed 14-Jun-23 08:31:26

Blossoming

I’m a working class woman and I resent her attempt at claiming ‘poor kid made good’ credentials! She’s a perfect example of a class traitor grin

Seriously, she thought she’d joined the posh boys’ club. She hadn’t, and now she’s no longer useful to the posh boys she’s out.

Oh dear me. Someone rises up and she's a traitor to the commie cause.

maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 23:49:17

GrannyRose15

How would an elected second chamber be any better? We have already lost trust in one elected chamber. Having two which we have no trust in would only make matters worse.

But there is that.

maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 23:48:32

Callistemon21

It's starting to become meaningless.

Can we have an elected Second Chamber, please?

Yes please.

Daisymae Tue 13-Jun-23 22:31:06

I read today that Johnson knew in February that her names was removed from the list. I guess that he forgot to mention it......

HousePlantQueen Tue 13-Jun-23 20:38:36

Silly infatuated Dorries is yet another victim of Johnson's lies and promises. Why did she think she was any different from his ex wives, mistresses, employers, colleagues? This is what Johnson does; he has no loyalty, no morals. More fool her for supporting him.

lixy Tue 13-Jun-23 19:49:18

My mid-Beds neighbours are hoping for an MP who is actually in the constituency or the HoC to represent them after the Goodbye and good riddance-election. What with her stint in the I'm a Celebrity jungle, book tours and other unavoidable absences they hardly see Nadine Dorries.
As for anyone expecting BJ to keep his word or reward loyalty, well, words fail me.

Blossoming Tue 13-Jun-23 19:22:04

I’m a working class woman and I resent her attempt at claiming ‘poor kid made good’ credentials! She’s a perfect example of a class traitor grin

Seriously, she thought she’d joined the posh boys’ club. She hadn’t, and now she’s no longer useful to the posh boys she’s out.

Kate1949 Tue 13-Jun-23 19:16:37

Awful woman

Siope Tue 13-Jun-23 19:10:10

Casdon grin

Casdon Tue 13-Jun-23 18:59:58

Siope

She still hasn’t resigned.

It’s not a matter of banging your ruby clad heels together and chanting ‘I immediately resign’ . There is an official process which she hasn’t yet started.

Wiggling her nose like Samantha in Bewitched and saying she wants to be a Lady is perhaps more her style?