Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested!

Freya5
I suppose you could say the same about people who don't live in England or Wales, still having something to say. It is a complete Island, our home , we have a right to say what we like.
We have on multiple occasions and by multiple posters, been very robustly told that all the countries in the UK have a right to complain about England because that’s where Westminster is.

Marydoll

CheersMeDears

What I find difficult to understand is why so many posters, who do not live in Scotland dislike NJ so much, when what she does or says has little impact on their lives.

Who is NJ?
Sturgeon has done a massive amount of damage to women in Scotland. Her relentless insistence that any man can rock up and declare himself woman has caused untold harm and distress to women who need a safe female only space. I can't help but wonder if she's currently casting a side eye at all the men she's enabled to be put in women's prisons and maybe thinking that it wasn't such a good idea after all.

Thats' not what I mean and your comment does not answer my question..
There are posters on GN who do not live in Scotland, but on occasions are very robust in their comments.
I am genuinely interested in the reasons for this.

BTW, I am not an SNP supporter, so it has nothing to do with my question.

I suppose you could say the same about people who don't live in England or Wales, still having something to say. It is a complete Island, our home , we have a right to say what we like.

about, dammned predictive text!

Thank your Oreo, a perfectly valid reason.
I feel the same way about Jacob Reese Mogg, but I wouldn't waste my time posting abought him. 😉

Marydoll Scotland is part of the UK so of course people are interested in what goes on there including anything to do with NS.I think she just appears smug and bloody irritating tbh and that’s the reason.

We are so lucky here in Glasgow, that there are no such things as Edinburgh shoplifting gangs. It's good to know, we are safe from Eastern marauders, there are apparently none.
I always knew folk in Edinburgh were far superior or so they think.. 🤣

Scotland is part of the UK; the SNP sit in the Parliament in Westminster, and NJ, whom I presume to be Nicola Sturgeon, their erstwhile leader, has never had her right to comment on England, favourably or otherwise, questioned.

I'm always on the alert!
That reminds me. My friend was in
M&S recently and a man walked straight out carrying a large pile of duvet covers and sheets. She was shocked and rushed to find a staff member. The staff member said, 'We know. It's an Eastern European gang. There's nothing we can do.' A change from those dodgy Glaswegian shop lifting gangs of my youth! Now I understand why M&S is so expensive - they have to price in 'shrinkage' as it used to be called.

Aveline, we were on a bus tour with a bunch of respectable oldies. A great disguise for a criminal gang.
The stallholder proceeded to tell us how much he hated the Scots.
Your comment did make me laugh, for we Glaswegians are indeed a rough bunch and need watching.😉

I'm very sorry you had that experience NanaDana. However, in certain areas I'm not surprised!
Marydoll when I worked in a large shop years ago the word would be passed around along Princes St that a 'gang from Glasgow was operating' Could it be that you and your friend were innocent collateral victims of such a warning being shared by stall holders?
Certainly I've never heard of Scots customers being refused service in England before

SueDonim

Yes, I suppose that’s it. She talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk, especially if you don’t live in the Central Belt.

This is it exactly SueDonim and I’ve said it before on GN. I live in Scotland and I have a very low opinion of her as a politician.

Years ago, I was with friends at a Dickensian Christmas market in England, when the stallholder refused to sell to us, when he heard our Scottish accents.
I was stunned, because I had never previously expeienced anything like that.

There will ways be people with extreme views like that, no matter where they live..

All forms of Nationalism, Scottish or otherwise, are, I believe, by definition divisive, as they exclude those who do not camp in that particular tent. Whilst I’m not suggesting for one moment that all Scots dislike the English, a significant number most certainly do, and in my opinion, that feeds into a rather unpleasant, inward looking type of Nationalism, which some of us may well have experienced first hand. My own experiences, at the lower end, include an unfortunate visit with DH to an Edinburgh bar, where the TV was showing an England vs Germany football match. The rapturous reaction when Germany won made us both keep our heads down, to avoid speaking, to finish our drinks, and to then quietly slip away. A more extreme example was when in conversation with a Scottish friend, I happened to refer to the Queen’s Silver Jubilee, to be met with the response: “She’s not our Queen. You English murdered our Queen”. Reacting to my clearly rather dumbfounded appearance, she quickly added :” I know you’re English, but you’re O.K.” When I replied that if she’d told Trevor McDonald that she didn’t like blacks, but that he was “O.K.”, and that he’d have been just about as impressed by her comments as I was, she just didn’t get it. Suffice to say, our friendship ended there and then.
I have many Scottish friends and relatives who would be genuinely horrified at such glaring examples of Anglophobia, so please don’t imagine that I’m suggesting that such bigotry and prejudice are widespread. However, it’s definitely out there, and does take root in the fertile ground of a certain strain of Scottish Nationalism. So yes, Nicola Sturgeon may always be quick to emphasize that she is not anti-English, but how many of her supporters can put their hands on their hearts and truthfully say the same? It would be interesting to know.

I have no idea * Calli*!

She's known as 'Elsie McSelfie' on some parts of Twitter.

Fixed that for you. I’m always amazed that some people don’t seem to know that Twitter (and other) algorithms provide users with content which reflects their own beliefs and viewpoints.

I'm not looking for a spat, I have always wondered why so many people on GN (who do not live in Scotland) are bothered by what she does. That , btw, doesn't mean means they shouldn't post their opinions. I'm keen to know what irritates them.

For me two words, Marydoll: Scottish Independence

I voted to remain in the EU and I think the UK is better together top.

A question: Why is Nationalism considered desirable in Scotland but if applied to England it is considered akin to fascism?

I may be missing something.

Well, as we know from another thread that's currently active on GN, you apparently don't have to actually live in a country to hold very strong opinions about its politics and leaders!

Thanks Aveline, that goes somewhere towards explaining.
I have friends who think that she showed Johnstone for what he was, ( her own shortcomings aside) and that is why people don't like her.
I'm not looking for a spat, I have always wondered why so many people on GN (who do not live in Scotland) are bothered by what she does. That , btw, doesn't mean means they shouldn't post their opinions. I'm keen to know what irritates them.
What does it matter if she was on TV everyday, no-one was forced to watch her. There is an off/on switch.
I leave the room, when BJ and Douglas Ross are on. 😉

Yes, I suppose that’s it. She talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk, especially if you don’t live in the Central Belt.

I'm just curious why so many people seem to despise her.

Because she's loudly and publicly criticised Johnson and his cronies for his lies and deceit whilst studiously keeping schtum about her own? As far back as 2017, she attended a launch event for 2 new passenger ferries to be built by Ferguson Marine, although quite how they won that contract in 2015 was the subject of raised eyebrows and criticism. 8 years later and £300,000,000 adrift, there are still no signs of either ferry.

I suppose she's made herself more perceptually prominent. She never missed an opportunity to get herself on TV, appears at book festivals and generally pushes herself forward in a way that others don't. She's known as 'Elsie McSelfie' on Twitter.

I'm probably not making myself clear. I'm not stating that people shouldn't post comments about NS, everyone has that right, I'm just curious as to why there are so many negative comments and sometimes vitriolic ones about her.
I am thinking of posters who often start negative threads about her. Not this thread

I'm sure if we did a bit of a trawl, the negative comments about NJ would more that outweigh those about other world leaders. I'm just curious why so many people seem to despise her. (Apart from gender and the DRS issues)..

Plenty of people have opinions about leaders of other countries. Biden (and Trump), Putin, Zelensky, Macron. Why shouldn’t people offer up their opinions?

I don’t see that NS or Scotland came out of the pandemic in any way better than other countries. People now struggle to get NHS treatment - I waited 2.5years for treatment - and children have paid an appalling price. It’s visible in primary schools, where some children have missed out on socialisation and it’s causing great stress for staff and other pupils. Then in some schools 20% of pupils have never returned. Where are these ‘missing’ children? Is anyone trying to locate them?

All this while Scot Gov messes about with gender and bottle return schemes.

CheersMeDears

^What I find difficult to understand is why so many posters, who do not live in Scotland dislike NJ so much, when what she does or says has little impact on their lives.^

Who is NJ?
Sturgeon has done a massive amount of damage to women in Scotland. Her relentless insistence that any man can rock up and declare himself woman has caused untold harm and distress to women who need a safe female only space. I can't help but wonder if she's currently casting a side eye at all the men she's enabled to be put in women's prisons and maybe thinking that it wasn't such a good idea after all.

Thats' not what I mean and your comment does not answer my question..
There are posters on GN who do not live in Scotland, but on occasions are very robust in their comments.
I am genuinely interested in the reasons for this.

BTW, I am not an SNP supporter, so it has nothing to do with my question.

What I find difficult to understand is why so many posters, who do not live in Scotland dislike NJ so much, when what she does or says has little impact on their lives.

Who is NJ?
Sturgeon has done a massive amount of damage to women in Scotland. Her relentless insistence that any man can rock up and declare himself woman has caused untold harm and distress to women who need a safe female only space. I can't help but wonder if she's currently casting a side eye at all the men she's enabled to be put in women's prisons and maybe thinking that it wasn't such a good idea after all.