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Marsh family on refugees - and acceptance.

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Wyllow3 Sun 18-Jun-23 00:20:46

Abut their singing and their beliefs, which I wouldn't be posting if they didnt match mine. it started with a song about Ukraine and went on from there.

their thinking and actins"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8Oqf6MmuA

the song premieres in two days time

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfDdvwsTCHI

Foxygloves Sun 18-Jun-23 05:51:45

Their style does not sit comfortably with me. Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with what they are saying and their songs are both clever and perceptive - but I don't like the involvement of the children who are parroting the views and judgemenrs of the adults (I'm assuming the Dad but it could as easily be the Mum)
Somehow it's not as funny or cutting from the children's mouths. Satire and children ? I don't think so.

Oreo Sun 18-Jun-23 08:20:30

I agree with that comment Foxygloves 👍🏻

merlotgran Sun 18-Jun-23 08:22:49

Same here.

NotSpaghetti Sun 18-Jun-23 08:43:15

I don't like this family's involvement of the children either.
And actually I don't think they're very good.

Too tame.

Marydoll Sun 18-Jun-23 08:48:31

I'm also agree with previous comments.
I can't explain why, but I feel uncomfortable about the whole set up.

aggie Sun 18-Jun-23 08:54:46

Did you watch the video ?

Marydoll Sun 18-Jun-23 09:00:21

I have followed this family for a few years and initially found their videos entertaining. They are definitely a talented family.
However, I do wonder if the children are allowed to have independent views of their own, rather than those of their parents.

CheersMeDears Sun 18-Jun-23 09:13:15

Children parroting the views and opinions of their parents doesn't sit right with me either. Would you be so amused and supportive if they were singing in praise of political views that were opposed to your own?

Kandinsky Sun 18-Jun-23 09:15:33

Don’t like them at all - far too smug.
They think they’re a lot funnier than they actually are.

Casdon Sun 18-Jun-23 09:17:14

Is there a difference between this and religious, dietary or other views being imposed on your children though, I’m not so sure? The older boys are 16 and 14, I don’t think they would take part unless they wanted to.

NotSpaghetti Sun 18-Jun-23 09:26:09

We all impose dietary and religious views in our children- even when we think we don't.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 18-Jun-23 09:41:49

So all those condemning the parenting of this couple would never have talked about politics or newsworthy items to their children and discussed them together?

The children all appear capable of making their own voices heard in such a discussion. Perhaps you would not have allowed any discussion amongst your family? I wonder if you sensored the newspapers coming into the house to ensure that they were balanced as well. I wonder if you censored the friendships you had so that nobody they met, would put forward a contentious view?

Some families discuss politics and current affairs in depth and some families never do. I know everyone will throw the "I have a right to my opinion " phrase at me, but I really would like to know, while you may obviously have a view, you think it is your right to publish your views on how these people should parent?

Kandinsky Sun 18-Jun-23 09:50:38

Talking about politics with your children is one thing, parading them all over social media for other’s enjoyment / ridicule is another.

JenniferEccles Sun 18-Jun-23 09:54:36

What a smug family they are.
I have never taken to them.

NotSpaghetti Sun 18-Jun-23 09:55:11

Kandinsky is right.
We all (well most of us) ^talk news/current affairs/politics at home. We don't post it on social media DaisyAnne

Obviously if they want to make a career of their family (think ^the Osmonds^) it's their choice.

eazybee Sun 18-Jun-23 10:02:40

I watched them once as a result of seeing a reference to them on here.
Was not impressed, either by content or performance.

Luckygirl3 Sun 18-Jun-23 10:12:50

I would be happy for my children to "parrot" compassion.

VioletSky Sun 18-Jun-23 10:33:17

Children parroting views?

The youngest is 11, children are intelligent and able to have opinions on many things at that age. They are literally taught how to make their own informed decisions in primary school.

Children parroting views sounds like a small child coming into school saying "girls can't play football" with absolutely no thought behind that statement, just something they have heard an adult say.

Or another one I've heard "boys can't marry boys" which is also factually incorrect and another example of a parroted view.

Or sometimes it's a misunderstanding and they believe giraffes live in a zoo because that's the only place they have ever seen one and they are taught about habitats instead

These parents have used facts in their teaching and their writing. Education likes facts

VioletSky Sun 18-Jun-23 10:42:43

Education and parents are out there working hard to raise children who are intelligent, informed, compassionate and able to objectively look at the bigger picture

We still have adults running around parroting news paper headlines and venting misdirected anger at vulnerable, innocent demographics as a result

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 18-Jun-23 10:47:42

So, your problem is with the children singing in public, not the satirical tone of the lyrics?

Why then do you not attack the parenting of those whose children appear on Britain's Got Talent, The Voice, etc. What about all the children who sing in public with a school or church choir. Goodness, I sang in Manchester Cathedral a couple of time with my school. Just think of "views and judgements" imposed on me by the words I sang. And we were literally "paraded" in and out!

Have you nothing better to do than "other" people? All this "They are not me and do not share my views, therefore they are wrong" or in this case bad parents may make you feel better but it is ultimately very destructive.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 18-Jun-23 10:49:19

My last postcwas in reply to Not Spaghetti

Witzend Sun 18-Jun-23 10:52:42

Am I the only one who’d never heard of this family?

Baggs Sun 18-Jun-23 10:57:20

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks those kids are being indoctrinated. There are plenty of great songs without political commentary that the family could be singing all together to show off their musical skills.

I speak as one who was also subject to a certain amount of political indoctrination as a child. It was not done publicly though. It's fine for kids to know about their parents' political inclinations but making them spout them in public makes me uncomfortable.

Jaxjacky Sun 18-Jun-23 11:03:11

Sorry Wyllow I’ve always found them a tad preachy, rather like some US based religious groups.