Will the Tories turn up to vote tomorrow?

Starmer voted FOR the report.

Are you actually saying that Sunak could not have turned up to vote if he so wished!!

I am sorry but that is nonsense.

Whitewavemark2

So what is the real reason Sunak didn’t vote? Last week he was saying “tough” over Johnson’s notorious honours list.

This week he is hiding away and not prepared to lead his party in the debate over our democracy.

So what happened between last week and this?

Whitewavamark2 it has already been posted on this thread that the PM had meetings scheduled with the Swedish leader.

Do you hold Mr. Starmer in such low esteem? He didn’t vote either.

So what is the real reason Sunak didn’t vote? Last week he was saying “tough” over Johnson’s notorious honours list.

This week he is hiding away and not prepared to lead his party in the debate over our democracy.

So what happened between last week and this?

Im going to read the list of the non voters. What a disgrace for an mp of any side not to have voted. Sunak is an all round weakling.

Dickens

... well, it's been an interesting day.

Indeed.

Clarifications of areas where I pointed out previously I could not find information.

1. Although seven were counted as having voted "no" only six names were recorded. This is, apparently, not unusual!

2. It took a while, as few papers seem to be prepared to report on what Starmer was going to do, but I did find one report saying he planned to return for the vote. He did return for the vote. His vote is recorded in Hansard.

Views on whether his speech in Scotland was important or not will differ. I certainly don't want my planet to fry, nor do I want us to remain in fuel insecurity. So I felt being able to hear a long planned speech, about what the Labour Party would do in government, was important. Others may not care. It was also a planned and important speech for the Labour Party in relation to the next election and, therefore, for our democracy.

Meeting people from other countries is also important. However, it is very little distance to the Houses of Parliament from No 10 and Sunak could have voted had he chosen to do so.

Lovetopaint037

Thinking it’s a disgrace that all MPs should not be required to cast a vote one way or the other. Democracy is at stake here and all of them should have attended to vote unless they presented a really good reason not to. In which case it could have been cast in some manner in their absence. As for the poor showing of the cabinet surely it says just what a useless shower we have as a government. Was beginning to warm to Rishi Sunak but his weakness has changed that.

Indeed.
Parliament manages to compel MPs to turn up when it wants to, so why was it easy-oasy & do what you like this time?

Still, at least he's gone.
His honours list should be scrapped too.

225 M.P.'S did not vote, for whatever reason. What a damning statement on the current state of our so-called Government. They should all be publicly named, and should hang their heads in shame. How can anyone possibly imagine that such cowards actually represent the views of those who voted for them? As for Sunak.. spineless. A General Election can't come soon enough for me.

DiamondLily

The vote to pass the judgement was overwhelming, but many Tories didn't turn up to debate or vote:

"Conservative MPs who voted against included Sir Bill Cash, Nick Fletcher, Adam Holloway, Karl McCartney, Joy Morrissey and Heather Wheeler - while 118 Tories voted in favour.

No vote was recorded for 225 MPs, because they either abstained or did not turn up to vote."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65953605

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12212027/MPs-controversial-Partygate-report-Boris-Johnson.html

I wonder if those who didn't turn up will be eager to express an opinion - on an issue they didn't deem important enough at the time that it mattered?

Abstaining is one thing, but not showing up in the House is quite another.

I am convinced now that Johnson’s political career is over.

It is definitely time to move on and concentrate on the damage done by his years as Premier and see what can be done to mend it.

Sunak if course is more right wing than Johnson, so those less well off, the NHS, social care etc should not be hopeful.

Heather Wheeler has just been given an OBE for public service . Like Nad I think she’s obsessed with Johnson. She was in tears when he left Downing Street.

OH and I were absolutely glued to the debate! Some of Johnson’s defenders are very strange! At the end of the day just seven of them supported him. What happened to Rees Mogg? Hopefully Johnson now has his just desserts (strange term) and will never return to public life.

The vote to pass the judgement was overwhelming, but many Tories didn't turn up to debate or vote:

"Conservative MPs who voted against included Sir Bill Cash, Nick Fletcher, Adam Holloway, Karl McCartney, Joy Morrissey and Heather Wheeler - while 118 Tories voted in favour.

No vote was recorded for 225 MPs, because they either abstained or did not turn up to vote."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65953605

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12212027/MPs-controversial-Partygate-report-Boris-Johnson.html

... well, it's been an interesting day.

All that defending of Johnson and Rees Mogg didn’t even vote! Scared of losing his Sir’dom.

Thinking it’s a disgrace that all MPs should not be required to cast a vote one way or the other. Democracy is at stake here and all of them should have attended to vote unless they presented a really good reason not to. In which case it could have been cast in some manner in their absence. As for the poor showing of the cabinet surely it says just what a useless shower we have as a government. Was beginning to warm to Rishi Sunak but his weakness has changed that.

I thought Penny Mordaunt, in a very difficult position, handled it very well.

It sounded as if Starmer attended the debate but Sunak didn't but not yet sure about that.

354 endorsed the report 7 against.

I wrote and thanked Dawn Butler when she accused Johnson of being a liar. She’s right: whatever punishment was imposed should be rescinded.

I thought it dreadful that Penny Mordant was the only person on the front bench.
Is this the cabinet showing that they are too important to bother to turn up?. Wonder if they will vote.
There have been some brilliant speeches (Teresa May was superb0 as well as some sheer drivel .

Hillary Benn is always good value.

Jess Phillips. Marvellous!!

I am sitting in the garden with a glass of wine, far more beneficial 🍷

They’re all going off at tangents now. Bridgen is promoting his latest political party. Some of them need telling to shut up…