Missing Titanic Submarine

I believe that locating them is only the beginning. Getting them back to the surface might be impossible. One of the difficulties is that they are a long way from land and too far for helicopters and the special equipment needed to help them. Ships are on the way but time is of the essence.

Maybe the Titanic should be left alone now.

I hope and pray that they will be able to eject the weights somehow and surface.

Any life lost at sea is one too many, whether they be explorers, hobbyists or seeking refuge.

I think they have enough air for 4 days so won't give up hope yet.

No, it doesn't make it right AGAA4 but it doesn't mean it's wrong either.

Germanshepherdsmum

I even hate driving through the Blackwall Tunnel knowing I’m under the Thames.

I've never been able to go under the Channel Tunnel.
The Mersey Tunnel and the Severn Tunnel are bad enough!

So do I and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone - and the more they panic, as anyone would, the worse it will be.

AGAA4

So that makes it right?

People will always look for adventure.
Humankind would never achieve anything if no-one took risks.
Sometimes foolhardy, yes.

There will always be others who are courageous enough to put their own lives at risk to rescue others.

Despite my view on this I do hope they are found. I wouldn't want anyone to suffer and running out of air is terrifying. I have had serious asthma attacks and was given oxygen at the hospital so I know how frightening it is not to be able to breathe.

Claustrophobic, so not for me. I’m uncomfortable sitting in planes packed to the gunnels.
People argue that humans have a natural need to push boundaries, climb mountains, go into space etc. and this is a good thing. “Because it’s there” doesn’t entice me to climb that mountain or want to travel into space. Everyday life is exciting enough!

If nothing can be done, I hope something catastrophic happened quickly and these poor souls (however much money they have) are not still suffering, it hardly bears thinking about.

I even hate driving through the Blackwall Tunnel knowing I’m under the Thames.

So that makes it right?

The thought of them being trapped somewhere makes my blood run cold. I hope they find them in time but it's a very small vessel in vast ocean.

People risking their lives to save others who have embarked on an activity for fun, happens all the time*AGAA4*. Mountain climbers, cavers etc. and people who need rescuing by the coast guard for a variety of reasons.

M0nica

5 or 6 very rich men lost in 3,800 metres of water, on a vanity trip.

Hundreds of drowned women and children lying 5,000 metres deep in the Mediterannean, locked in an overcrowded boat, fleeing from misery and poverty.

You don't know if these very rich men donate thousands, if not millions, to charity.

It's like saying to someone that they don't actually need a holiday, they should donate the money to help others less well off.

People will always look for extreme adventures.

Not for me!

One of DH's friends was on subs but DH said they were too claustrophobic for him long-term.
I knew someone years ago whose DH was on nuclear submarines and she had no communication at all during the months he was away.

I hope they can be found and brought to the surface safely but it doesn't sound hopeful.

Freya This trip was purely for fun and now others are risking their own lives to save them. You can't equate this with those who are trying to find a better life. Yes they can spend their money as they wish but knowing the danger they gave no thought to those who have had to try to rescue them.

I cannot imagine what induced them to go.
I had thought they could be rescued but it looks bad

Freya I am sorry you interpreted my post the way you did. My intention was the opposite. To show how regardless of origins and purpose, wealth or poverty, fate treats us all the same.

Since you needed everything spelled out, once on/in the water, the lives of these people and the fates they face/d are the same and they are equally dependent on the skill and humanitarian aid of others.

Where you see division I see humanity brought together in the fates they face and their dependency on others

Nothing would persuade me to do this, I also hope they are found in time but whether they can be raised safely I don't know. Lets hope this puts a stop to visiting this graveyard.

It’s actually makes me feel nauseous just thinking about what those people must be going through…
It’s such a confined space with all the fear and terror they must be experiencing . It’s like a nightmare…😖

Germanshepherdsmum

What a strange interpretation of what has been said Freya.

The way it comes across.

I am very claustrophobic and can get affected by a too tight neckline or sleeve cuff. There is no way I could go in a submarine on dry land let alone beneath the sea.
I hope they can be found in time, and I would hope that will be the last of these trips. Not because of the cost per se but because I view the Titanic as a grave not a visitor spectacle.

I do think that a lot of the rescue attempt is down to the challenge of what is really an impossible situation, a learning process in which things can be attempted and logged to determine how successful, or not

I heard that they had masses of documentation to sign with death potential being written several times

Not looking at all good. The vessel has heavy metal blocks which causes this van-size basic container to sink, when they get down then the metal blocks are ejected one by one and the vessel rises. It is a pity that they felt the voyeuristic need to `see` the titanic, which is after- all a tomb. Electricity is provided by little fan-sized motors

Never in a million years would I want to go down in one of those submarines, or any kind of sub.
But I would defend the right of those who want to. It's their money. I hope they can be found soon.

What a strange interpretation of what has been said Freya.