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Is he a bot or merely incapable of thinking for himself?

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CvD66 Sun 25-Jun-23 09:45:57

Whenever interviewed or answering questions live, the Prime Minister ‘rinses and repeats’ ie repeats one sound bite. The interviewer can ask four different questions and the PM seems only able to repeat one answer - the topic he is pushing that day! So is he a ‘bot’ ie merely a parrot of his team’s latest thoughts or is he merely incapable of thinking for himself?

CaroleAnne Mon 26-Jun-23 12:04:37

I think that our PM is tackling a very difficult job which will not happen overnight. People will have to be a bit more patient and view the outcome of his premiership in the longer term. Rome was not built in a day.
So hang in out there and sit tight.
Carole Anne.thanks

MaizieD Mon 26-Jun-23 12:06:36

ronib

MaizieD it’s beginning to feel as if the economic crisis here will only improve once the war in Ukraine ends? So not in our hands whoever is in government? Putin is on to a winner by destroying Western economies?

Sorry, ronib, I don't think that the war in Ukraine is any excuse for the government not doing its job of looking after the wellbeing of the nation and the people in it.

Our economy isn't being destroyed by it, even the availability and cost of energy supplies is settling as alternative sources are being found and costs are reducing.

MaizieD Mon 26-Jun-23 12:11:09

CaroleAnne

I think that our PM is tackling a very difficult job which will not happen overnight. People will have to be a bit more patient and view the outcome of his premiership in the longer term. Rome was not built in a day.
So hang in out there and sit tight.
Carole Anne.thanks

I'm afraid he has very little time left in which to produce results. This is a lame duck government which needs putting out of its misery...

An interesting analysis here by a former government lawyer

emptycity.substack.com/p/the-government-is-running-out-of

Casdon Mon 26-Jun-23 12:11:28

CaroleAnne

I think that our PM is tackling a very difficult job which will not happen overnight. People will have to be a bit more patient and view the outcome of his premiership in the longer term. Rome was not built in a day.
So hang in out there and sit tight.
Carole Anne.thanks

He’s tackling a much more difficult job than he should be because of the many major errors made by his predecessors. It really isn’t a case of hanging in there, because the goose is already cooked - all he can do is put a few temporary patches over the craters now. I do wonder if his heart is really in it, I’d bet he’s already sounding out his next opportunities.

ronib Mon 26-Jun-23 12:26:41

MaizieD don’t think that energy costs will continue to decrease. Of course energy is cheaper in the summer.

You did notice that Russia has a low inflation rate? Roughly where we want to be?

MaizieD Mon 26-Jun-23 12:32:21

Energy prices paid by the energy companies a re decreasing.

Whether they pass this on to consumers is a different matter. However, they have made massive profits over the past year...

Take your pick of articles about this:

duckduckgo.com/?q=energy+company+profits+2022&t=chromentp&ia=web

spabbygirl Mon 26-Jun-23 12:39:59

varian

I do know that this point is trivial,and probably, irrelevant but I cannot take seriously a middle aged man who dresses like a schoolboy whose mother refuses to buy him a new school uniform although he has grown out of the old one.

His ridiculous skinny trousers, too tight jacket and tiny tie are just awful.. He is not overweight so should not be wearing too tight clothes.

If I were keen to see him re-elected I would take him to M&S and buy him some new clothes in the proper size to makje him look more grown up.

As it is I do not want to see him re-elected (and for good reasons' not trivial ones) so I'm not going to insist he follows my advice, although his ridiculous appearance is a national embarrassment.

I so agree Varian!! I think he's just keeping the seat warm. The Tories know he's no good and they haven't got anyone better, they've given up on the next election anyway

grannyrebel7 Mon 26-Jun-23 12:45:08

The people would never have voted for him. So I agree with Fanny he's just a caretaker PM. A very slight improvement on the previous encumbent, but Peppa Pig herself could probably have done a better job to be fair!

Stella14 Mon 26-Jun-23 12:48:42

Doodledog

GrannyGravy13

Doodledog

The (Kuenssberg) interview this morning was awful. Sunak just talked over her, not letting her do her job at all. It looks bad when politicians do that - it's so rude, and gives the impression that they can't answer the question but have to stick to their soundbites as per the spin.

Laura Kuenssberg consistently talked over the PM, wouldn’t let him finish his answers because they were not the answers she wanted.

I didn't see it like that at all. She asked a question, he answered a totally different one, and she tried to bring him back on track. He refused to stop talking, even when she was telling him that he wasn't answering. What was she supposed to do - just let him spout propaganda for the whole interview?

That’s the fashion and a trivial issue faced with a collapsing country and a incompetent, uncaring PM.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 26-Jun-23 12:49:44

grannyrebel7

The people would never have voted for him. So I agree with Fanny he's just a caretaker PM. A very slight improvement on the previous encumbent, but Peppa Pig herself could probably have done a better job to be fair!

The U.K. electorate do not vote for a Prime Minister, we can only vote for our constituency MP.

It is up to the Party and it’s members to elect the party leader and if they are in Government they will be PM.

Stella14 Mon 26-Jun-23 12:51:31

Sorry, my post above has quoted the wrong post 🤷‍♀️ I was referring to the one complaining about his clothes

Childofthe60s Mon 26-Jun-23 12:54:59

My thoughts exactly. I was getting so frustrated I had to stop watching. He pushed my BP up higher than the blasted heat.

Cossy Mon 26-Jun-23 13:19:16

mumofmadboys

If Sunak was only interested in making money he would not be Prime Minister. He would work in finance surely.

I agree and as neither he nor his wife need any further money ever why would he be interested in “making money” I thought he was a decent chancellor, I think he’s a vast improvement on Truss BUT he simply really needs to harder to understand how awful the last few years have been for every normal average Mr/Mrs of this country. I’ll be honest, I couldn’t care less how he looks or how he dresses so long as he is a good, empathic, compassionate and responsible PM acting and taking action for the good of the 99% of our electorate not the 1% Is he a good PM only time will tell and I fear another “winter of discontent” with all the public sector strikes and please don’t tell me that “we” and the govt cannot afford at least inflation matched pay increases, there’s always money available if the govt chooses to make it so, and years of austerity actually achieved nothing and public sector pay has decreased in real terms year on year since 2009

4allweknow Mon 26-Jun-23 13:26:15

They are all the same. They stick to their current agenda. Watch the Scottish First Minister being interviewed about the rally and meeting the party had at weekend. Never answered a question just kept spouting out all that had been talked about at the rally.

ronib Mon 26-Jun-23 13:28:37

MaizieD

Energy prices paid by the energy companies a re decreasing.

Whether they pass this on to consumers is a different matter. However, they have made massive profits over the past year...

Take your pick of articles about this:

duckduckgo.com/?q=energy+company+profits+2022&t=chromentp&ia=web

MaizieD I see you have not referred to my point about Russia’s low inflation rates.
I share your disgust at the attitude of Uk government and energy profits but a windfall tax is possible in time.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 26-Jun-23 13:39:44

ronib

MaizieD

Energy prices paid by the energy companies a re decreasing.

Whether they pass this on to consumers is a different matter. However, they have made massive profits over the past year...

Take your pick of articles about this:

duckduckgo.com/?q=energy+company+profits+2022&t=chromentp&ia=web

MaizieD I see you have not referred to my point about Russia’s low inflation rates.
I share your disgust at the attitude of Uk government and energy profits but a windfall tax is possible in time.

I read that the energy companies have an agreement to invest a proportion of their profits in renewable energy research and development programmes.

If this is so, it’s much needed, as the planet will not survive the continued use of fossil fuels.

The Energy Profits Levy was introduced in 2022, which is a windfall tax by a different name.

Applegran Mon 26-Jun-23 13:44:31

I doubt if he is 'the right kind of money man' - it's just that he understands aspects of money and feels on safe territory there. As a national leader, surely he needs to see money management in the wider context of a great vision for the country.

MaizieD Mon 26-Jun-23 13:46:07

With a get out clause, GG13. Which I'm sure they will exploit to the full.

www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jun/09/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-offered-get-out-clause-on-windfall-tax

Casdon Mon 26-Jun-23 13:47:56

ronib

MaizieD

Energy prices paid by the energy companies a re decreasing.

Whether they pass this on to consumers is a different matter. However, they have made massive profits over the past year...

Take your pick of articles about this:

duckduckgo.com/?q=energy+company+profits+2022&t=chromentp&ia=web

MaizieD I see you have not referred to my point about Russia’s low inflation rates.
I share your disgust at the attitude of Uk government and energy profits but a windfall tax is possible in time.

where do you get your information from ronib?
tradingeconomics.com/russia/core-inflation-rate

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 26-Jun-23 13:49:39

So what is ‘the right kind of money man’ Applegran?

ronib Mon 26-Jun-23 13:54:38

MaizieD I read the link supplied on a post showing Switzerland Liechtenstein and Russia as having the lowest rates of inflation!

maddyone Mon 26-Jun-23 14:08:52

I think he’s a caretaker PM. I’m not impressed by him at all.

Applegran Mon 26-Jun-23 14:08:57

Germanshepherdsmum - the 'right kind of money man' is surely someone who knows that we need a healthy economy to flourish but has a wider vision than that - a vision about welfare, health, education, the environment, care and compassion.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 26-Jun-23 14:18:39

Applegran

Germanshepherdsmum - the 'right kind of money man' is surely someone who knows that we need a healthy economy to flourish but has a wider vision than that - a vision about welfare, health, education, the environment, care and compassion.

Exactly.

biglouis Mon 26-Jun-23 14:21:22

I cannot take seriously a middle aged man who dresses like a schoolboy whose mother refuses to buy him a new school uniform although he has grown out of the old one

Maybe someone needs to send him to the same publicity company that "made over" Margaret Thatcher. They taught her how to speak up without screeching and how to power dress.