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Court of appeal supports asylum seekers challenge

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Allsorts Fri 30-Jun-23 06:57:09

If I were fleeting for my life I wouldn't go through safe countries to travel across across the channel in a dingy. So an appeal to this decision has to go ahead.
Watching the news have you seen how people living here cannot afford to live despite working full time, the rental market has reduced and the costs tripled. There is a dramatic rise in the standard housing now, also you can't get to see a GP or NHS dentist where I live. It's time to face the facts.

Freya5 Fri 30-Jun-23 06:54:40

DaisyAnneReturns

Yet another uncovering of the truth on Question Time. I do hope this is the beginning of the end of myth of "what the people want" being only known by the far right.

They were probably asked questions before hand, and how do people know they were Conservative voters, most question time audience are left wing.

Casdon Fri 30-Jun-23 06:51:57

It’s not difficult, you’re right Whitewavemark2.
This is from the Government Library - report to March 2023.

Between 2018 and 2022 there were 76,134 asylum applications from people who arrived in small boats, accounting for 28% of all asylum applications during that period.

• 85% of small boats arrivals who claimed asylum between 2018 and 2022 and >99% of those who claimed asylum in 2022 were still awaiting an initial decision, as of February 2023.

• 61% of small boat arrivals who had received an initial decision on their application, as of February 2023, had been granted asylum or another form of humanitarian support.

No need to say any more.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jun-23 06:37:10

The whole thing is and has always been a nonsense of course.

GIVE THEM SAFE PASSAGE.

For someone asking what Labour would do?

Employ a Home Secretary like Cooper who is not driven by dogma.

Work with France to set up a centre at somewhere like Coquelle and deal with applications there. Arrange a swift returns policy to those failed applications.

Employ extra staff at the HO to clear the backlog.

The smugglers would be stopped immediately.

It is obvious to anyone but the hard of thinking, or who wish to make capital out of “othering” migrants.

Calendargirl Fri 30-Jun-23 06:26:21

MayBee70

Is anyone watching Question Time. Fiona Bruce asked a largely Conservative voting audience if any of them supported the plan to send people to Rwanda and not one person did. This, after Sunak had said that the majority of people in this country supported the plan.

Probably no one dare be the first to put their hand up.

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Jun-23 23:46:45

Wyllow3

Yes I'm watching it right now MayBee70. Astonishing moment. Didnt expect that.

We can't know know many felt it on moral grounds or the simple fact it costs too much.

Thank goodness we have an independant judiciary. Long may it remain so, something to be proud of.

We can't know know many felt it on moral grounds or the simple fact it costs too much

Well, both. It's a ridiculous notion.
The Government needs to be spending money on getting to grips with a speedier processing system instead of finding more and more places to deposit migrants in hotels, boats and another country six and a half thousand miles away.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 29-Jun-23 23:38:56

Yet another uncovering of the truth on Question Time. I do hope this is the beginning of the end of myth of "what the people want" being only known by the far right.

Oreo Thu 29-Jun-23 23:14:55

Casdon
The Guardian says that 28% of all asylum seekers that came here by small boats in 2022 were Albanian, and which nationality made up the largest number of migrants wanting to stay in the UK.So yes, a good slice indeed. Great to hear the numbers are falling this year ( so far) will have to see if this trend continues.

Wyllow3 Thu 29-Jun-23 23:06:06

Yes I'm watching it right now MayBee70. Astonishing moment. Didnt expect that.

We can't know know many felt it on moral grounds or the simple fact it costs too much.

Thank goodness we have an independant judiciary. Long may it remain so, something to be proud of.

MayBee70 Thu 29-Jun-23 23:01:32

Is anyone watching Question Time. Fiona Bruce asked a largely Conservative voting audience if any of them supported the plan to send people to Rwanda and not one person did. This, after Sunak had said that the majority of people in this country supported the plan.

Casdon Thu 29-Jun-23 23:01:01

It’s not Albanians.

‘How many Albanians have crossed the Channel in 2023?
The numbers have fallen from 2,165 in January to June 2022, to 151 in the first five months of 2023. Mrs Braverman told MPs that the Government was “not complacent” despite the fall in numbers and would continue to monitor crossings by Albanians.5 Jun 2023’
www.telegraph.co.uk › politics

Oreo Thu 29-Jun-23 22:54:29

NanKate don’t hold your breath about any of that. Don’t think any politicians can do much about all the so called asylum seekers as they get blocked at every turn.Have read that Germany sends all Albanians back and since they make up a good slice of the numbers arriving here in the UK we should do the same.
Disappointing that Keir Starmer is afraid to say what a woman is and of course he knows full well.

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 29-Jun-23 22:50:26

I am not sure how this proposal will stop people traffickers. Surely the boat owners who transport folk across the channel don't care what happens to their cargo once it's landed.

NanKate Thu 29-Jun-23 22:37:31

To my knowledge, and I could be wrong, the Labour Party have not said how they would deal with with this influx of asylum seekers.

I expect the Labour Party to be elected at the next General Election so I will be able to see if their solutions work.

I do hope by then Sir Keir Starmer can come up with a clear and accurate description of what a woman is.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 29-Jun-23 20:36:05

Whitewavemark2

Yvette Cooper absolutely shredded Braverman today.

YC has a brain. She is always worth listening to.

Iam64 Thu 29-Jun-23 20:32:11

Imagine, if Yvette Cooper had been voted Labour leader when was stop alongside Jeremy Corby. Our country would be in a better place.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Jun-23 20:13:44

Yvette Cooper absolutely shredded Braverman today.

Grantanow Thu 29-Jun-23 11:05:09

The learned judges in the lower court erred according to the Appeal court majority by treating claims by the Rwandan government as equivalent to sworn evidence by UN agencies. We shall see what the Supreme court makes of that.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 29-Jun-23 10:55:10

The judgement was not unanimous. I hope it is appealed.

nanna8 Thu 29-Jun-23 10:42:33

Interesting that Australia no longer has off shore detention on Nauru, they took the last remaining refugees off the island and brought them to Australia recently. It didn’t really work, caused a lot of angst and criticism.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Jun-23 10:40:13

Pippa Crerar
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BREAKING: Campaigners and asylum seekers have won a Court of Appeal challenge over the Government’s planned Rwanda deportation scheme.

Well at least that will save £169000 per person transported for the time.

Off to Supreme Court now I guess.