Court of appeal supports asylum seekers challenge

Interesting that Australia no longer has off shore detention on Nauru, they took the last remaining refugees off the island and brought them to Australia recently. It didn’t really work, caused a lot of angst and criticism.

The judgement was not unanimous. I hope it is appealed.

The learned judges in the lower court erred according to the Appeal court majority by treating claims by the Rwandan government as equivalent to sworn evidence by UN agencies. We shall see what the Supreme court makes of that.

Yvette Cooper absolutely shredded Braverman today.

Imagine, if Yvette Cooper had been voted Labour leader when was stop alongside Jeremy Corby. Our country would be in a better place.

Whitewavemark2

Yvette Cooper absolutely shredded Braverman today.

YC has a brain. She is always worth listening to.

To my knowledge, and I could be wrong, the Labour Party have not said how they would deal with with this influx of asylum seekers.

I expect the Labour Party to be elected at the next General Election so I will be able to see if their solutions work.

I do hope by then Sir Keir Starmer can come up with a clear and accurate description of what a woman is.

I am not sure how this proposal will stop people traffickers. Surely the boat owners who transport folk across the channel don't care what happens to their cargo once it's landed.

NanKate don’t hold your breath about any of that. Don’t think any politicians can do much about all the so called asylum seekers as they get blocked at every turn.Have read that Germany sends all Albanians back and since they make up a good slice of the numbers arriving here in the UK we should do the same.
Disappointing that Keir Starmer is afraid to say what a woman is and of course he knows full well.

It’s not Albanians.

‘How many Albanians have crossed the Channel in 2023?
The numbers have fallen from 2,165 in January to June 2022, to 151 in the first five months of 2023. Mrs Braverman told MPs that the Government was “not complacent” despite the fall in numbers and would continue to monitor crossings by Albanians.5 Jun 2023’
www.telegraph.co.uk › politics

Is anyone watching Question Time. Fiona Bruce asked a largely Conservative voting audience if any of them supported the plan to send people to Rwanda and not one person did. This, after Sunak had said that the majority of people in this country supported the plan.

Yes I'm watching it right now MayBee70. Astonishing moment. Didnt expect that.

We can't know know many felt it on moral grounds or the simple fact it costs too much.

Thank goodness we have an independant judiciary. Long may it remain so, something to be proud of.

Casdon
The Guardian says that 28% of all asylum seekers that came here by small boats in 2022 were Albanian, and which nationality made up the largest number of migrants wanting to stay in the UK.So yes, a good slice indeed. Great to hear the numbers are falling this year ( so far) will have to see if this trend continues.

Yet another uncovering of the truth on Question Time. I do hope this is the beginning of the end of myth of "what the people want" being only known by the far right.

Wyllow3

Yes I'm watching it right now MayBee70. Astonishing moment. Didnt expect that.

We can't know know many felt it on moral grounds or the simple fact it costs too much.

Thank goodness we have an independant judiciary. Long may it remain so, something to be proud of.

We can't know know many felt it on moral grounds or the simple fact it costs too much

Well, both. It's a ridiculous notion.
The Government needs to be spending money on getting to grips with a speedier processing system instead of finding more and more places to deposit migrants in hotels, boats and another country six and a half thousand miles away.

MayBee70

Is anyone watching Question Time. Fiona Bruce asked a largely Conservative voting audience if any of them supported the plan to send people to Rwanda and not one person did. This, after Sunak had said that the majority of people in this country supported the plan.

Probably no one dare be the first to put their hand up.

The whole thing is and has always been a nonsense of course.

GIVE THEM SAFE PASSAGE.

For someone asking what Labour would do?

Employ a Home Secretary like Cooper who is not driven by dogma.

Work with France to set up a centre at somewhere like Coquelle and deal with applications there. Arrange a swift returns policy to those failed applications.

Employ extra staff at the HO to clear the backlog.

The smugglers would be stopped immediately.

It is obvious to anyone but the hard of thinking, or who wish to make capital out of “othering” migrants.

It’s not difficult, you’re right Whitewavemark2.
This is from the Government Library - report to March 2023.

Between 2018 and 2022 there were 76,134 asylum applications from people who arrived in small boats, accounting for 28% of all asylum applications during that period.

• 85% of small boats arrivals who claimed asylum between 2018 and 2022 and >99% of those who claimed asylum in 2022 were still awaiting an initial decision, as of February 2023.

• 61% of small boat arrivals who had received an initial decision on their application, as of February 2023, had been granted asylum or another form of humanitarian support.

No need to say any more.

DaisyAnneReturns

Yet another uncovering of the truth on Question Time. I do hope this is the beginning of the end of myth of "what the people want" being only known by the far right.

They were probably asked questions before hand, and how do people know they were Conservative voters, most question time audience are left wing.

If I were fleeting for my life I wouldn't go through safe countries to travel across across the channel in a dingy. So an appeal to this decision has to go ahead.
Watching the news have you seen how people living here cannot afford to live despite working full time, the rental market has reduced and the costs tripled. There is a dramatic rise in the standard housing now, also you can't get to see a GP or NHS dentist where I live. It's time to face the facts.

Here’s the full report from the House of Commons Library. It makes interesting reading.
commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/
If ever there was a politically manufactured problem.

I’m not sure why anyone would not “ dare put their hands up” if they really thought this policy would be the solution to the problem and perfectly moral. After all, Bravermann has no hesitation about spouting her dream to all and sundry. It’s telling that Sunak has dropped his “5 promises” to “ 5 priorities” as he knows he won’t meet his targets.

The facts of the judgement are

The judgement was on the decision to transport innocent people to Rwanda - a country who recently shot dead a number of transported migrants because the migrants said that they could manage to eat on £5 a day.

Rwanda is not a safe country.

That is what the judgement was about - the governments policy is in tatters and will not be sorted before the next election.

It was about nothing else.

allsorts you post makes a strong case that shows up the failed and ideologically driven government policies, that has resulted in the conditions that you describe.