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Should Banks Be Able To Close Accounts If They Do Not Like Your Opinion

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Anniel Mon 03-Jul-23 13:11:00

I could hardly believe the news that a bank closed all the accounts of Nigel Farage. Although no reason was given, evidently a Labour MP, Chris Bryant, used parliamentary privilege to accuse Mr Farage of taking £546,000 from Russia Today for media appearances. Mr Bryant was challenged to repeat the accusation outside Parliament but he refused Mr Farage denied the allegations but Mr Bryant refused to repeat his accusations in public because Farage would sue him.
A Vicar in Yorkshire had his Yorkshire Building Society account. Closed because he thought the BS had too many Pride flags being flown.
No mention so far on GRANSNET so I thought it should be discussed. I am sure Grans must have an opinion. You may not like Mr Farage, but should banks have the right to close your account without proper explanation because they do not like your political opinion or they do not support free speech?

growstuff Tue 04-Jul-23 18:06:05

Germanshepherdsmum

None of it makes sense growstuff.

No, it doesn't.

And I can't help feeling that Farage has jumped on a bandwagon to further his identity politics agenda.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 04-Jul-23 18:00:41

None of it makes sense growstuff.

growstuff Tue 04-Jul-23 17:58:28

Germanshepherdsmum

Thanks growstuff. The Companies House details are seriously worrying. Why would anyone entrust money to this company?

No idea! I was just posting the findings of my Google search.

I find it a bit strange that a company set up in 2019 would choose Metro Bank, which in 2016 became the first bank in the world to offer customers to sign up under a third gender:

www.businessinsider.com/metro-bank-is-the-first-to-offer-a-third-gender-option-for-customers-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

PS. I'm not making any comments/judgment on the rights or wrongs of the trans movement.

growstuff Tue 04-Jul-23 17:54:47

Debsododaband

I thought it was because he banked with Coutts and you have to have a certain amount coming in and savings up to 3 million pounds. He was offered another account with one of their other banks, as in Nat West, but he refused.

And lied about it. He's now claiming he was only offered a NatWest account on Thursday after this all blew up, but there's a video of him on his TV programme a few weeks ago stating he was offered a NatWest account.

Debsododaband Tue 04-Jul-23 17:52:39

I thought it was because he banked with Coutts and you have to have a certain amount coming in and savings up to 3 million pounds. He was offered another account with one of their other banks, as in Nat West, but he refused.

sally45 Tue 04-Jul-23 17:52:02

I think that this trend is exetremely worrying and should be a concern for us all. Look at history!

Saetana Tue 04-Jul-23 17:47:43

This has happened to a number of figures on the right of politics. Banks should only be able to close accounts if there is evidence of criminality. The government are going to speak to the regulator about this and see about tightning up regulations so this doesn't happen in the future.

MerylStreep Tue 04-Jul-23 17:45:58

Another high profile figure caught in the wokeweb.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12262157/Equalities-chief-fathers-rights-charity-UKIP-councillor-claim-bank-accounts-shut.html

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 04-Jul-23 17:44:58

Thanks growstuff. The Companies House details are seriously worrying. Why would anyone entrust money to this company?

growstuff Tue 04-Jul-23 17:28:48

Germanshepherdsmum

What is Duty International Bank? A Google search comes up with nothing and your link didn’t work, Metro couldn’t have closed the account if they didn’t own this other bank.

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13069796/officers

ourduty.group/

transsafety.network/posts/our-duty-uncovered/

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 04-Jul-23 17:23:24

What is Duty International Bank? A Google search comes up with nothing and your link didn’t work, Metro couldn’t have closed the account if they didn’t own this other bank.

Grantanow Tue 04-Jul-23 17:20:17

It seems Farage has dropped a few bob and Coutts don't want him anymore. Nothing to do with his opinions. Hopefully he will now emigrate but I doubt most civilised countries would want him.

BeverleyJB Tue 04-Jul-23 16:57:32

Metro Bank closed Our Duty International Limited's bank account. Banks can close accounts without giving a reason why.
Metro Bank is aligned with Stonewall. Our Duty International is an organisation for parents who challenge gender identity ideology.
Coincidence?
twitter.com/ourdutygrp/status/1676183710620590083?s=61&t=38dnssMfaGnDXaRjTrU1lw

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 04-Jul-23 16:54:56

Has he ever told the truth? It would be just desserts if NatWest decided they didn’t want his custom after the stink he has kicked up, blackening the name of a respected company which they own.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 04-Jul-23 16:50:35

Germanshepherdsmum

M0nica

Dickens His experience is no different form any other person less well known. Once one bank chucks you out, no other bank wants to touch you, and many other banks will not let you open a ccount with them either..

I think the system is outrageous and can best be described as being operated like a kangaroo court. The person told their account is being closed, cannot find out why and cannot defend themselves. A bit like justice in China, North Korea and Russia, and other dictatorships.

If a bank refuses to tell you why your account has been frozen or closed it’s more than likely because they (rightly or wrongly) suspect money laundering. To tell you in those circumstances would constitute the criminal offence of tipping off. I had to do so much money laundering training when I was practising, and things have been tightened up still more since then. With imprisonment potentially hanging over your head if you fail to spot money laundering, the mind is crystallised believe you me.

Yes, for any other reason you are contacted.

But using Farage as an example is not the best argument, as he didn’t tell the truth.

Excessive hyperbole doesn’t help either.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 04-Jul-23 16:37:08

M0nica

Dickens His experience is no different form any other person less well known. Once one bank chucks you out, no other bank wants to touch you, and many other banks will not let you open a ccount with them either..

I think the system is outrageous and can best be described as being operated like a kangaroo court. The person told their account is being closed, cannot find out why and cannot defend themselves. A bit like justice in China, North Korea and Russia, and other dictatorships.

If a bank refuses to tell you why your account has been frozen or closed it’s more than likely because they (rightly or wrongly) suspect money laundering. To tell you in those circumstances would constitute the criminal offence of tipping off. I had to do so much money laundering training when I was practising, and things have been tightened up still more since then. With imprisonment potentially hanging over your head if you fail to spot money laundering, the mind is crystallised believe you me.

fancythat Tue 04-Jul-23 16:35:00

Whitewavemark2

Mine isn’t unconcsious bias i am totally consciously biased - I loathe the individual. He is no friend of Britain.

But this means nothing you write, is about trying to be just and necessarily true in life.

MerylStreep Tue 04-Jul-23 16:35:00

hallgreenmiss

The information on this has changed

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12262757/Nigel-Farage-lashes-Kings-bank-Ex-UKIP-leader-slams-Coutts-shutting-account.html

Farage’s continued whining about this will make it more difficult for people who have genuinely had their accounts unfairly closed to get resolutions

Absolute B*££#@ks. Who knew this was going on before Farage brought it to our attention.

fancythat Tue 04-Jul-23 16:32:02

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suelld Tue 04-Jul-23 16:27:55

GrannyGravy13

This is on Martin Lewis’s Twitter feed

I would agree with Martin Lewis’ erudite comments.
Just one question WHY won’t the egregious Farage name the Bank? He’s not one to be slow coming forward with slights and accusations. Could it be because if he does they might reply giving the exact reasons why ..ie: money laundering or similar? No idea myself why, but…?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 04-Jul-23 16:25:11

maddyone

No I don’t think it will. It’s drawing attention to the many very ordinary people such as the much quoted vicar, who have suffered this happening to them.
I understand that many people don’t like Nigel Farage, but I don’t understand the absolute glee about this. We should all be concerned about the behaviour of the banks.

Exactly 👏👏👏

elaine0411 Tue 04-Jul-23 16:21:37

Very well said.

maddyone Tue 04-Jul-23 16:18:43

No I don’t think it will. It’s drawing attention to the many very ordinary people such as the much quoted vicar, who have suffered this happening to them.
I understand that many people don’t like Nigel Farage, but I don’t understand the absolute glee about this. We should all be concerned about the behaviour of the banks.

hallgreenmiss Tue 04-Jul-23 16:08:13

The information on this has changed

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12262757/Nigel-Farage-lashes-Kings-bank-Ex-UKIP-leader-slams-Coutts-shutting-account.html

Farage’s continued whining about this will make it more difficult for people who have genuinely had their accounts unfairly closed to get resolutions

Dickens Tue 04-Jul-23 16:06:22

leeds22

Normally I would say that banks shouldn't be able to close your account if they don't like your views. However, in Farage's case I would make an exceptiongrin

Well I wouldn't - not even in his case.

It's a dangerous route to go down.

His views are abhorrent - but unless he's breaking the Law, is a bank justified in refusing his custom?

Unfortunately, we'll only know what he decides to tell us - his interpretation of the reasons.