Fifteen year old girl who killed her newborn baby

I so agree, hearbreaking really. she`s scarred already and 12 years will break her Poor little thing.

It's ghastly. As you say where's the compassion. Where's the understanding?
I thought infanticide was not a custodial offence.

After all, who is in danger from this girl now?

This girl needs a lot of help not a lengthy prison sentence .

I hope that she gets psychiatric help , an education and a reduced sentence .

I read this and could scarcely believe the judge's decision. This poor girl is of no risk to anyone. She needs care, and she needs to finish her education and receive some sort of training. Custody is no place for her.

I felt exactly the same , the poor girl!
Being in custody will be very harmful for her. A shocking outcome , yes let's hope for a review and a greatly reduced sentence, she needs care, professional help and compassion.

She was found guilty of murder and that carries a mandatory life sentence. A life sentence cannot be suspended but the judge can decide on a minimum tariff. Far more evidence than is contained in that short report would have been heard so we are not able to comment usefully, purely emotionally. According to the report she concealed her pregnancy so who was supposed to help her? My sympathy lies with the poor baby.

Yes, let us hope that there is an appeal. Poor girl,

A man strangles his wife because he is fed up of lockdown after a few days - sentenced to five years.
A man strangles his girlfriend during so called "rough sex" - sentenced to four years.
Something seriously scewed in our justice system.

I was 100% sympathetic with her until I read how she'd killed her baby. He must have suffered terribly in his 60 minutes of life.

I think the sentance is harsh.

Ilovecheese were they instances of manslaughter? It very much sounds like it. Murder is deliberate and premeditated.

I always thought that infanticide was no longer treated as murder
The Infanticide Act is the name of two 20th-century acts in English law that started treating the killing of an infant child by its mother during the early months of life as a lesser crime than murder
The maximum penalty for infanticide is life imprisonment. However, in practice a non-custodial sentence is usually the outcome

She was charged with murder, not infanticide. Different crimes.

I feel for her mother. Looking after your dying husband, then finding the corpse of your daughter’s baby must have been horrendous for her. The greatest shame is that the girl said that she “accepted that she had a family who would have supported her." The sentence seems harsh but that may be because we know none of the other circumstances, nor the girl’s mental state.

I tend to agree with GSM ( unusual I know 😂) and beetlejuice when I read more about it, she killed him very violently throwing him on the floor breaking his skull then stuffing cotton wool down his throat putting his little body in a black bin bag and leaving it outside the house door The little baby is believed to have been alive for two hours and the post mortem showed he had cried, his injuries were similar to someone in a very bad car accident It was murder
She was obviously a very troubled child and needs help more than prison but should she be out and about to perhaps have another baby !!
I m not sure how I feel about this girl

Similar case but very different sentence:
www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mother-jailed-for-three-months-over-manslaughter-of-baby-left-in-bin-1330126.html

What she did is very distressing BlueBelle, and it explains why she was convicted of murder. As regards the length of time she must serve before release, we haven’t seen the judgement (well I haven’t anyway). That will explain a great deal.

Statement from the Crown Prosecution Service

This is a tragic and complex case. Stanley Mayo’s short life was filled with pain and suffering when he should have been nurtured and loved. The prosecution built a case based on medical evidence which proved that Paris Mayo’s actions were deliberate, she chose to hide her pregnancy, give birth alone and kill her baby, then hide his body despite accepting that she had a family who would have supported her. Although Paris Mayo has been sentenced today, nothing can bring back poor Stanley who tragically lost his life before it even got a chance to begin.”

That isn’t a similar case Farmor.

The jury on this case were able to consider a verdict of infanticide but, after hearing all the evidence, they took just 8 and a half hours to decide it was murder. She received a fair trial.

She should be sent to a closed psychiatric institution and reviewed regularly, as regards progress towards rehabilitation, had treatment, etc. Problems in the family clearly alluded to. Dad about to die. Lots more to this story I feel. Need to know what huge said about minimum but most of all, where she will be sent.

quote from the O/P, "The judge said she knew she was in labour, so must have planned to kill the baby therefore the killing was pre-meditated.".

This is the judge leading the jury. We don't know it was premeditated. How on earth did things get to where they were?

This case was on the local news and I fund it very distressing.

Poor baby, poor girl.
She didn't have a happy home life, was just looking for some love and I don't believe she realised the consequences and was shocked to find herself pregnant and then told no-one.

She was a frightened 15 year old and, hearing about the awful family circumstances, how do they know she would have received family support?

Esmay

This girl needs a lot of help not a lengthy prison sentence .

I hope that she gets psychiatric help , an education and a reduced sentence .

It was a while ago, I think she's 19 now but was just 15 at the time.

She needs psychiatric help, a lengthy prison sentence helps no-one.

I do feel that the young girl needs mental health help It’s not easy to kill even a helpless baby and not normal behaviour It would have been easier to abandon the little chap somewhere
I think a 15 year old doesn’t have the same forethought and insight of an adult but I do think it was murder, she didn’t want the baby, but its complex because she had nine months to have an abortion I wonder why she went full term went through giving birth (which I found very scary at 21) and then kill the poor little thing You ve got to be mentally very unstable to actually kill any living thing, even an animal