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New National Anthem

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Aspen Wed 05-Jul-23 16:31:27

I have just watched Charles on TV in Scotland with the ceremony in St Giles with lots of music chosen by the King himself. The National Anthem was played several times which must be one of the most dreary pieces of music ever written. He has pledged to make changes in the Royal Family please could he include a lively piece of music about our country and that he could enjoy singing as well.

nanna8 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:52:59

Good to sing in a crowd as loud as poss! 😃

Callistemon21 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:49:13

nanna8

‘Simply the best’, that would lower the tone . Good song though.

I can't stand it!!

😁

nanna8 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:46:52

‘Simply the best’, that would lower the tone . Good song though.

paddyann54 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:29:55

OmaforMya Flower of Scotland is nothing to do with the SNP its just a folk song written in the 60's used mainly by Rugby fans since . Though a lot of those might jump ship now Ruth the mooth has been appointed a director .

Saggi Sat 08-Jul-23 14:15:01

He won’t change it…..the monarchy! One bore replacing another bore!

Vintagenonna Sat 08-Jul-23 14:07:37

Context is important : listening to the Welsh fans, South African fans and the Scottish fans singing their respective pieces during the Rugby season gives goosebumps.

I think there was a suggestion some years ago that the National Anthem be replaced with 'I vow to thee my Country" which would work for religious moments.

Or what about "The Winner Takes it All"?

Parky Sat 08-Jul-23 14:05:22

Perhaps you should have a listen to other countrys' national anthems some of them make god save the king positively joyful!

Callistemon21 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:02:28

Fae1

I couldn't care less about the 'National' anthem as it's not mine. I live in Wales and the Welsh National anthem is inspiring!

If the National Anthem is sung then the Welsh anthem is always sung last as it's better 😁

Gwenisgreat Sat 08-Jul-23 14:00:22

What about "Rule Britannia" It makes me very patriotic sung at the proms?

Trurider1 Sat 08-Jul-23 13:48:53

I am damn sure that the Labour Supports should have HIGHWAY TO HELL as their Anthem

Fae1 Sat 08-Jul-23 13:43:43

I couldn't care less about the 'National' anthem as it's not mine. I live in Wales and the Welsh National anthem is inspiring!

DeeDe Sat 08-Jul-23 13:41:07

Definitely need a new one, perhaps when we get William on the throne … he and Kate hopefully will be more suitable for the role, then the two we have now … blah!

BlueBelle Sat 08-Jul-23 13:15:38

Let’s have “Always look on the brighter side of life” We could learn a lot by that 😂

LindaPat Sat 08-Jul-23 13:15:12

While I personally like " I vow to thee my country", I don't think King Charles would agree to it - it was played at his wedding to Diana. Too many memories.

OmaforMaya Sat 08-Jul-23 13:06:44

Please excuse the typing glips....my fingers must be too fat for keyboard. 😯

farmgran Sat 08-Jul-23 13:06:10

How about 'I vow to thee my country'.

OmaforMaya Sat 08-Jul-23 12:53:16

MiniMoon

Oh yes please! It's an awful song. The full lyrics are all about crushing foes.

I think they arevtalking about God Save tge King.....not Flower of Scotland as that is not an official anthem....only brought about bybtge SNP.

HannahLoisLuke Sat 08-Jul-23 12:48:58

I agree that we need a change but please not Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem, both hopelessly outdated. The French anthem is also very bloodthirsty, echoing their revolutionary history I suppose.
Love the Welsh one and quite like the Scottish one too.
Absolutely no idea what we could choose so will put up with the status quo.

She777 Sat 08-Jul-23 12:31:22

I love our National Anthem. I’m a traditionalist so that probably explains it.

knspol Sat 08-Jul-23 12:16:09

I agree absolutely, the National Anthem is sooooo dreary! Those from other countries are uplifting and inspiring whereas ours is just a dirge. We should have a referendum, I'm sure the majority would vote for a change.

grandtanteJE65 Sat 08-Jul-23 12:08:56

MiniMoon

Oh yes please! It's an awful song. The full lyrics are all about crushing foes.

Yes, well if you look at the texts of other countries national anthems they are all much of a muchness.

Generally speaking they were either written at a time of national crisis or adopted as a national anthem during one.

And it is hard to know what would be better.

It may seem easy to write a text that basically says that you love your country, but really only Sweden has managed to do so without either sounding martial or in the case of the Danish anthem about the country regretting the time when the country was greater,

Certainly the Danish anthem is dated now, but even if new anthems are written they will be old-fashioned in the course of quite few years.

Most of us probably sang both Land of Hope and Glory, and Kipling's Land of our Birth as schoolchildren with enthusiasm, but are made slightly uncomfortable now by the sentiments expressed. The same thing is likely to happen even if you do succeed in getting a new British National Anthem.

nanna8 Sat 08-Jul-23 11:50:32

Anything but the current one. It’s awful. So is the Australian one but at least that doesn’t just concentrate on one person in a sycophantic way.

Romola Sat 08-Jul-23 11:49:03

The Marseillaise may be rousing but the tune is complicated and the words are extremely aggressive and militaristic. I think the French should be ashamed of the words nowadays.
Land of Hope and Glory is obviously imperial and needs some new words, but the tune is fabulous. Come on Simon Armitage, it's up to you as Poet Laureate.

4allweknow Sat 08-Jul-23 11:45:39

Katie 59 Something new relating to Englandno problem but remember it should reflect on all UK nations. It's the British national anthem after all.

cc Sat 08-Jul-23 11:25:31

Everyone knows the lovely rousing tune to Land of Hope and Glory, it just needs some appropriate words, not involving kings, queens or any jingoistic references to war and victory.
Personally I don't like "I vow to thee my country", it's old-fashioned and dull.
We need something rousing and lively, like the French or Italians have, something that younger people would enjoy singing with gusto.