Children’s Asylum Centre ‘too welcoming’ 😢

I'm afraid it's just part of the hostile environment. Let's make the migrants' experience as grim as possible.

The response of some people here is that "we don't know the full story", as if that can somehow deflect criticism of this heartless, mean-spirited demand. So exactly what story would justify Jenrick's "demand"... and yes, it was reported as a demand, not as a suggestion or a mere aside. Do tell... Shameful.

Whitewavemark2

“Suffer little children”

Indeed

“Suffer little children”

Well what is "the full story?"

News has been out for several days now but nothing new, nothing denied. I keep googling and checking. If it were not true, would there not have been a correcting statement by now?

Primrose53

I think we are only being told part of the story.

As usual

The Dutch (ex) Dutch government have a very strict asylum system.

www.standard.co.uk/news/world/dutch-government-collapse-migration-asylum-seekers-politics-mark-rutte-prime-minister-netherlands-b1093056.html

Robert Jenrick is also the minister who declared : "migrants are breaking into our country in flagrant breach of our laws." Talk about inflammatory language.
I can not understand the argument "they should stay in another safe country". We hear that frequently. So we prefer to pick and choose. Others can take the so called illegal ones. What is happening to this country?

Hmmm, it seems a bit pointless removing cartoon characters from walls, but am also wondering about the point of these when it’s mainly teenagers / young men who go through this centre.It’s not a nursery after all.
Baggs I agree with what you say in your various posts on here.
The government in the Netherlands has just collapsed over the asylum seekers and policies, they will be holding elections later in the year, it’s a growing problem for very many countries.

Look out for cartoons in the newspapers tomorrow.

It’s just another nail in the Tory election coffin, maybe we should congratulate him on being such a bonehead that he didn’t realise how furious the reaction would be. I think they have a collective death wish for the party.
My money is on there being murals back there in a matter of weeks.

mayisay

In reply to you, I am 64, the obvious answer is that France is a much bigger country than England, obviously. I live in Kent, and I can assure you that KCC has accommodated unaccompanied children for many years, not just recently, and at great expense, and are now at breaking point.
Is it humane to allow young, unaccompanied children to travel across the English Channel in small boats?

No it’s not. France should keep them. We have paid them millions and they’ve done nothing but stand and watch the rubber dinghies depart their shores.

In reply to you, I am 64, the obvious answer is that France is a much bigger country than England, obviously. I live in Kent, and I can assure you that KCC has accommodated unaccompanied children for many years, not just recently, and at great expense, and are now at breaking point.
Is it humane to allow young, unaccompanied children to travel across the English Channel in small boats?

I am sure the full story will come out soon.

How come we never see migrant women pretending to be children?

Callistemon21

That's why we need to speed up the processes for checking asylum seekers, Primrose.

I have heard of a couple of cases of grown men pretending to be children and I'm sure it happens.

However, that is worrying if they are placed in an asylum centre like the one mentioned because there will be young, vulnerable children in the centres.

We're failing them.

It’s a lot more than a couple! There were 1,100 up to Sept 2021, we have now had many thousands more to date to you could probably treble that figure of men claiming to be children.

Germanshepherdsmum

I know precisely what you’re getting at and won’t rise to the bait.

I am not baiting you. If I were, I would suggest you stop pretending to be religious because your views on humanity do not fit with any religion and I find them immoral

mayisay

I would be interested to know why the French authorities don't do more to help the young children. Surely they must be aware of their existence, or are they turning a blind eye to their situation?

Why would you reach this conclusion? Why is it up tonthe French, who accommodate so many more than we do

I would be interested to know why the French authorities don't do more to help the young children. Surely they must be aware of their existence, or are they turning a blind eye to their situation?

Bring on Banksy - where does the miserable Jenrick live?

I’ve worked with asylum seeking children who saw parents shot - their crime? Being opposition politicians.

As for the question about how unaccompanied children arrive, remember the kinder transport 1938-1940? Hundreds of unaccompanied Jewish children arrived in the UK. Their parents pooled resources to try and save their children. Imperial War Museum Manchester has a moving exhibition of those children, many now in their 90’s. I spotted a woman who’d been a mentor to me in the 80’s. Every single member of her family perished in the camps.

I do not begrudge them Mickey Mouse, nor do I think removing him from a wall will change the situation one whit

Quite.

I doubt that the reason young traumatised asylum seekers want to come here would be "We must get to the UK, they have paintings of Mickey Mouse on the walls there!"

I knew Jenrick was a smug, oily bastard but I wasn't expecting even him to sink this low. Does the moron really believe that people are saying "Ooh let's risk death in a rubber boat because there are cartoons when we get there" or is he just being gratuitously unpleasant? Probably the latter.

My friend has fostered child refugees for some years. The traumas they have suffered are unimaginable - seeing your parents shot in front of you eyes for one child.

I do not think there is a magic wand to solve the problem of more refugees than we are currently able to efficiently process (what a grim word) but I do not begrudge them Mickey Mouse, nor do I think removing him from a wall will change the situation one whit. We will simply be seen as inhumane.

Primrose for many years we had teenage exchange students stay with us...usually boys .I well remember 14 and 15 year olds from Turkey who would pass for 25 ,a 15 year old from Portugal who was so sophisticated my 19 year old daughter asked to see his passport and he definately WAS 15 .There were several who had beards some who smoked a number who were used to wine with their meals .
I certainly had my eyes opened...they may LOOK older but its very often not the case

Whitewavemark2

Baggs

Whilst these innocents are waiting, they are held in the most unpleasant circumstances that this government thinks it can get away with. Presumably this includes painting out murals.

So stories of asylum seekers/refugees being housed in designated hotels are bunkum?

I'm genuinely asking.

Oh baggs they have a room and bed but nothing else. The building may be classified as a hotel, but that is as far as it goes. The issue is that this government has nowhere else to house them. If they had been on top of the whole thing from day one as they should have been this would never be happening.

They have food to obtain, clothes to wash - well day to day living - they can’t work - they have no stability or certainty - the sheer boredom would be sufficient to drive me mad.

But surely even a very basic hotel accommodation is better than what they've fled from?

The lack of stability and certainty is certainly not good but many people born here don't have stability and certainty either.

I agree that what government has done and is doing is manifestly unimpressive but if it were easy we wouldn't be having this conversation on GN because all would have been resolved already both here and in other countries.