Children’s Asylum Centre ‘too welcoming’ 😢

Marthjolly1

GSM. I am absolutely horrified by your total lack of understanding of the plight of these poor souls who are fleeing the worst of atrocities imaginable. You are beyond pompous

Has it occurred to you that people stopped fleeing when they reached a safe country? After passing through several safe countries why are they still described as desperate?

You would have to have a heart the size of a walnut to think of removing the tiniest possible scrap of enjoyment that scared and bewildered children might derive from looking at a pretty picture.

Makes me wondered whether they are allowed any toys to play with, or whether that might be considered too welcoming. God forbid that we should welcome homeless kids!

FannyCornforth

To be honest, I have no idea why I am commenting.
I must stop. It’s ludicrous

It is - so I have- just cannot bear to take part anymore.

Our small rural valley has recently welcomed 90 youngsters, unaccompanied refugees at a local centre. They have been welcomed by most, so many volunteers to help with outings, practising their French, help with school support, sport, music, art, and so much more.

My grandson is 17- he is so tall, has facial and body hair and a low voice, and could easily pass for an adult. He is just a kid ...

Thos who come to UK often have family or other people they know there, and they can speak good English- so they know that will help with school and, eventually, finding work.

Shame on those who support Jendrick's pathetic, ridiculous and sick action.

Please watch 'Welcome' a wonderful French film about a boy ... who wants to cross to join the love of his life.

GSM. I am absolutely horrified by your total lack of understanding of the plight of these poor souls who are fleeing the worst of atrocities imaginable. You are beyond pompous

foxie48

Primrose53 many refugees are well educated with skills, they have often had a good standard of living in their own country, want to work and create a new life for themselves. Most wish their own country was a place they could stay. Another way of looking at it is to consider that once refugees have leave to work they are actually adding something valuable to this country and unlike "homegrown" workers we have not had to nurture or educate them. I think it's sad that there is such a misunderstanding, spread by racists in the main, I'm afraid, that refugees are coming here to "milk" our society. It really isn't true.

I did outreach work and worked both inside a jobcentre and seconded to an LA and I worked with several migrants and care-leavers, some of whom arrived in this country as unaccompanied minors - a very small percentage of those purporting to be under 18 clearly were over 18. However on the whole refugees, whatever route they took to gain entry to the UK are desperate people, lots of them were well educated and spoke English well. Please remember there is a huge difference between a refugee, an economic migrant and travelling romanies - we have all three in this country

^ixion you may be interested to know that the statistics gathered by the government are incomplete and need to apparently be cross-referenced with other data.
I do wish it was all in one place! I've now spent two hours trying to understand what info comes from where!^

Thank you NotSpaghetti
I started here
www.gov.uk/government/publications/illegal-migration-bill-factsheets/illegal-migration-bill-children-factsheet
but am rapidly disappearing down various rabbit holes!😡

I have no words… Some people are just vile !!

Maremia Sunak won’t be doing PMQs again next week.
It will be Oliver Dowden again

Astonishing the number of GNs on here who seem to be to the right of Farage, on this issue!
If you can wait until Wednesday, no doubt the 'other side of the story' will be revealed, when Sunak takes his place on the front bench for PMQs.

To be honest, I have no idea why I am commenting.
I must stop. It’s ludicrous

Germanshepherdsmum

This is government property ffs. Not up to employees to decide to allow someone to paint murals on it. There’s such a thing as asking for permission.

Oh my goodness!
People taking the initiative to improve the workplace for all involved’
Shame on them

GSM prison visiting rooms are government property also- and schools - and hospitals and...( you get my drift) many of which have murals and/ or are decorated by staff or volunteers.

Germanshepherdsmum

This is government property ffs. Not up to employees to decide to allow someone to paint murals on it. There’s such a thing as asking for permission.

I wish somebody had told us this when we decorated walls and painted stuff in schools, because it brightened up the place. I suppose we could have asked the LEA but frankly I don't think they would have been bothered, any improvement was welcome.

it is hardly like planning permission though

This is government property ffs. Not up to employees to decide to allow someone to paint murals on it. There’s such a thing as asking for permission.

A picture says a thousand words.

This

When I first heard about this, my first thought was the Disney Corporation told them to remove it?
They don't give you anything free.

Primrose53 many refugees are well educated with skills, they have often had a good standard of living in their own country, want to work and create a new life for themselves. Most wish their own country was a place they could stay. Another way of looking at it is to consider that once refugees have leave to work they are actually adding something valuable to this country and unlike "homegrown" workers we have not had to nurture or educate them. I think it's sad that there is such a misunderstanding, spread by racists in the main, I'm afraid, that refugees are coming here to "milk" our society. It really isn't true.

Primrose53: "I don't support allowing more and more people into our country every day especially when they have not put a penny into this country to start with."
Do you mean we should only allow wealthy people in? How can migrants contribute before they have been given a chance to do so?

a prison officer rang a radio discussion on this topic and made that very point.
prison visitor centres have murals, toys, activities etc despite not being a nursery.
because most people care about children and try to protect and nurture them.
whoever they are, and wherever.

I think it’s nasty and I wonder what the purpose is of doing that? This centre is a children’s centre so it’s nice to have a few happy things painted on the walls.
Yes, people want a proper immigration system but how is painting over wall murals in a children’s centre going to achieve that?

vegansrock

Some years ago I did voluntary work with the probation service. We helped in the visitors centre where families went to meet their imprisoned relative. We were encouraged to make the place bright and cheerful with artwork , toys for the kids and games for the family, and refreshments for all ( including the prisoners). There was also artwork around in the prison to lighten up the surroundings. Part of the reasoning behind this is to enable the prisoners to maintain their family ties. Presumably those who feel a prison is a merely place of detention think it should just look as grim as possible.

The psychology behind this is powerful. It puts people's emotions and needs central to recovery. I find it sad people cannot see that. Prison should be seen as a place of rehabilitation too not just punishment.

Were you seeking refuge from war or economic decline or political differences in your own land ?if so then how good to be able to work and have a bit of respect and something to occupy the mind from the obvious terror you suffered.