BBC presenter allegations.

Huw will get the best care. The rest of us have to struggle on and fight for help, which is rarely forthcoming. Not that that's his fault of course.

Kate1949

If Huw is ill, I hope he gets well. He will get the best care. I suffer with severe depression. It is hell. However, I agree with Doodledog that all too often celebrities cite mental health when they are found out as not being what they project on screen.

Thanks for understanding what I meant, Kate. If poor MH is used as an excuse for bad behaviour or as a reason not to take the consequences, it is a step back for those who suffer from it as their condition will become linked with that behaviour. If we accept that those suffering from depression can't help their behaviour will they ever be trusted as responsible adults?

This has nothing to do with not accepting MH as a serious issue, nor some nonsense about witchcraft. It is about making everyone responsible for their actions, and not allowing special pleading. I agree with GSM, Iam and others on that.

Of course it is sad for his wife and children, and for the young men involved in the case - I am certainly not taking any pleasure from this - but as Grammaretto says, he will be getting the best of treatment and care, which is probably not the case for people who are selling photos on Only Fans, who may also have MH issues.

I don't think this has been trial by media either. I do think that it was because the media picked up the story that it came to light, but that is not the same thing, and tbh I think it is for the best that it came out. If this happened as a result of an extended breakdown, who knows where it might have ended?

Finally, those speculating about the 'motives' of those of us with an interest in the case could not be wider of the mark, however high their horses may be, but they will never see that of course.

He is not necessarily blaming the MHI for his behaviour.

The mess he’s got himself and poor wife and children in has no doubt caused the severe depression.

For all we know he may have tried to take his life.

He will apparently make a statement when he is well enough.

He is a devout Christian let’s hope his faith and a loving family help him through.

His life is ruined because he made seriously bad choices - not because he suffers with depression

I agree with that

He seemed perfectly fine when he was commentating on the Queen’s funeral & the Royal wedding.
Plenty of people live perfectly normal lives whilst living with depression.
His life is ruined because he made seriously bad choices - not because he suffers with depression.

Having said that, I do seek to understand the complex vulnerabilities of several people here, that power can corrupt..

..and hate the Sun more than ever.

Grammaretto

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

Why the hell should he have any such "stain"?

Mental health seems to be an excuse for any unacceptable behaviour nowadays, *whether by a well known person or by somebody who becomes famous through committing a crime, or sports competitors not doing as well as they hoped.

In cases where your life is about to be ruined by publicity, whether over a criminal act or not, the impact might well reduce you to a mental breakdown or even contemplation of suicide.
If this has been going on for some time, the pressure would be immense. NB I’m not excusing whatever has gone on.
Speculation on the media even on GN can only add to the pressure. It’s unkind, and impacts the innocent as well as those accused as we saw in the case of Nicola Bulley and her family, but it will go on.

I hope Huw’s family get the privacy they have asked for, but I can already picture reporters parked outside the hospital, trying to sneak inside or interview staff.

Iam64

I agree clinical depression is a serious illness. I also agree with germanshepherdsmum in not seeing it as an excuse for everything.

Yes.

Yes I agree with GSM too. And it doesnt negate the harm that has been done to others.
I have behaved poorly in a relationship, there were complex reasons why that was the case but that was no comfort to the person I hurt. And actually taking responsibility for actions is very important.

I agree clinical depression is a serious illness. I also agree with germanshepherdsmum in not seeing it as an excuse for everything.

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

dragonfly46

I think it is all very sad and feel for his wife and 5 children. No amount of money can compensate.

Exactly 👏

I think it is all very sad and feel for his wife and 5 children. No amount of money can compensate.

Anniebach

Some cannot accept depression is a serious illness GSM

You and I know that it is Annie. Therefore I hate to see it used as an excuse or a shield. It is being found out that has caused him to be hospitalised and I don’t accept depression as an excuse for his behaviour. Depression doesn’t cause a married heterosexual man to indulge in this behaviour.

We do not question if someone has broken a limb if it’s in plaster.

Going by some of the comments on here there is still a stigma of disbelief around mental health.

Speaking from experience some folks mental health is extremely fragile, it doesn’t take a lot for a complete breakdown and the road back is long, difficult and can be full of setbacks.

Whitewavemark2

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t see depression as an excuse.
If this hadn’t been made public would he still be carrying on as before? Would he be in hospital?

I have had a total breakdown and I agree with ug your private and public persona behaviour is entirely different. Do not assume my private behaviour involved sexual behaviour.

Agree. You certainly cannot assume someone with depression would display inappropriate behaviour. The opposite, I would have thought.

It’s disgraceful, this trial by media. I wouldn’t buy the paper.

Galaxy

Might be a good idea as a society to look at the damage sites such as only fans do. We wail about the mental health of young people but do bugger all about looking at what the issues might be. There are of course complex power issues around paying for sexual services, it's why for example Hugh Grant was the purchaser rather than the provider.

Well said Galaxy 👏👏👏

As a society we are failing to protect young people.

MayBee70

Someone on Facebook described how an interview with them by the Sun was totally fabricated but done in such a clever way that legally they were beyond reproach. And that that person has suffered ever since from the fact that no one believed that he didn’t say the things that The Sun reported.

I read that. It was a musician who had toured with the late Michael Hutchence. He said during his interview how sad he was at the death of a talented musician and friend. The published interview bore no resemblance to this, was so skewed that the interviewee was shunned within the music industry and suffered mentally. All in a day's work for the loathsome Murdoch.

He is not fabricating severe depression, he has been a sufferer for many years, it’s all documented.
www.theguardian.com/society/2021/dec/23/huw-edwards-tells-of-20-year-struggle-with-depression
It isn’t an excuse, but please don’t accuse him of fabricating an illness which has seen him take a number of periods off work over the years.

Depression is / can be a serious illness. That’s true.
But Huw E is a wealthy man, who could have sought the best therapeutic help for himself?

I agree with you GSM and I do see it as a serious illness as I have it and my sibling took his own life due to it.

DiamondLily

DaisyAnneReturns

So we have been given a clear example of mankind not changing from the days when the beautiful girl was beaten out of the village because somebody swore they saw her use witchcraft to kill their cow. This would then be piled on by other villagers building the story from their imaginations.

I feel so sorry for Huw Edward's and equally his family. Seeing a loved one with severe depression is terrible and incredibly distressing.

I also feel very sorry for the young person at the centre of this. Their life has also been used by others to their own ends.

Hopefully we will now let those with the power to do so continue and complete their investigations.

To be fair, the young man's parents threw it all into the red top arena.

I can, perhaps, see why they have been estranged by their son.🙄

Time to let it be, and move on now.

And so many of you wanted so desperately for it to be true. No one was forced to pick up another done and throw it

Galaxy

Might be a good idea as a society to look at the damage sites such as only fans do. We wail about the mental health of young people but do bugger all about looking at what the issues might be. There are of course complex power issues around paying for sexual services, it's why for example Hugh Grant was the purchaser rather than the provider.

Thanks Galaxy. I don’t share the view expressed by those ‘sone posters’ that men have always behaved badly around sex so we accept that as impossible to change.
Pornography used to be difficult to access, especially its extremes. Now it’s available on everyone’s smart phone. There’s no doubt it’s increasing pressure on young people to participate in sexual activity that is not the norm it’s presented as. I’ve never wanted to be slapped or strangled as part of sex yet it’s becoming normalised.

Schools and parents are doing their best but, it needs proactive government intervention.