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BBC presenter allegations.

(936 Posts)
Kandinsky Sun 09-Jul-23 13:10:49

I know the last thread was taken down at the op’s request - but if anyone wants to continue discussing this major news item I’ve started this one.

Kate1949 Wed 12-Jul-23 09:45:47

Yes indeed Blondiescot. It's called 'show' business after all.

NanaDana Wed 12-Jul-23 09:44:57

FannyCornforth

NanaDana around this time yesterday you accused another poster of being rude to you and you said that you had decided to leave the thread.
Don’t let it bother you so much.
(I’m not being patronising, by the way)

"Don't let it bother you so much" is not patronising? Stop kidding yourself, because you're certainly not kidding me. You're also obliquely suggesting that I should leave the thread. Ditto. Sorry FC, but you're on the same page as GrannyGravy, despite your disclaimer to the contrary. And I'm certainly not "bothered". Nevertheless, I ain't going anywhere as long as Walt Disney productions continue to populate the ongoing fantasy. A balanced discussion, eh? Or would you prefer I just roll over and agree with you? Not going to happen. grin .

Blondiescot Wed 12-Jul-23 09:36:30

Kate1949

We have no idea that it's 'out of character'. Famous people let you see what they want you to see.

So true - as has been proven time and time again with certain previously popular 'celebrities'.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Jul-23 09:35:16

NanaDana

GrannyGravy13

NanaDana GN is a discussion Forum, posters discuss and ponder on what is behind the headlines

You are not obligated to take part.

Don't patronise me, just because I happen to disagree with you, GrannyGravy. You're not obligated to take part either, but I would never feel the need to tell you that. Your condescending reminder to me that "GN is a discussion forum, where posters discuss and ponder on what is behind the headlines" is totally superfluous to requirements, as that is exactly what I'm doing. However, unlike you, I'm not rude enough to suggest that someone I don't happen to agree with should simply go away. Not much of an argument, is it, or even a credible attempt to disprove anything I've said?

I have never been rude or patronising to you or anyone online NanaDana

I haven’t attempted to disprove anything you have said.

I have pointed out that all GN members are free to post or not as they see fit.

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jul-23 09:35:13

NanaDana around this time yesterday you accused another poster of being rude to you and you said that you had decided to leave the thread.
Don’t let it bother you so much.
(I’m not being patronising, by the way)

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 12-Jul-23 09:34:13

Kandinsky

*Just to let you know that at least one GN member is unhappy with the way the forum is being used*

I really think you should hide this thread, it seems to be upsetting you a lot more than it should.

Take a break.

I'm not upset, thank you Kandinsky. Just incredibly disappointed with my fellow human beings.

NanaDana Wed 12-Jul-23 09:33:46

Good post, LovesBach. Agreed.

NanaDana Wed 12-Jul-23 09:31:35

GrannyGravy13

NanaDana GN is a discussion Forum, posters discuss and ponder on what is behind the headlines

You are not obligated to take part.

Don't patronise me, just because I happen to disagree with you, GrannyGravy. You're not obligated to take part either, but I would never feel the need to tell you that. Your condescending reminder to me that "GN is a discussion forum, where posters discuss and ponder on what is behind the headlines" is totally superfluous to requirements, as that is exactly what I'm doing. However, unlike you, I'm not rude enough to suggest that someone I don't happen to agree with should simply go away. Not much of an argument, is it, or even a credible attempt to disprove anything I've said?

LovesBach Wed 12-Jul-23 09:29:59

Today's headline urging the presenter to declare himself is almost farcical. Can anyone imagine what would then happen to the person concerned, their family and freinds? Jeremy Vine feels others are being tainted - but only by those with nothing better to do that indulge in wild speculation, based upon a complete lack of factual truth. Nobody is obliged to read social media, if it is upsetting them. If this had been my child the matter would have been reported straight to the Police - certainly not the Sun newspaper, as other posters have said also.

Kate1949 Wed 12-Jul-23 09:29:28

We have no idea that it's 'out of character'. Famous people let you see what they want you to see.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Jul-23 09:20:29

NanaDana GN is a discussion Forum, posters discuss and ponder on what is behind the headlines

You are not obligated to take part.

NanaDana Wed 12-Jul-23 09:15:11

GrannyGravy13

NannaDana have you not watched/listened to any news bulletins, read a newspaper (digital or print) over the last five days?

If so you should be aware that this news item is still getting top billing, politicians are even getting involved. It definitely has a place on the N & P Forum.

Of course I have, GrannyGravy, and I know as much about the truth of the matter as you do.. which is nothing. I'm also perfectly capable of differentiating between discussing the "news", and constructing fanciful scenarios and theories out of thin air, which is nothing more than pure speculation. Do you see the difference?

Anniebach Wed 12-Jul-23 09:12:59

Very much out of character off air

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jul-23 09:06:52

Yes, hiding threads which one finds annoying is always a good idea

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jul-23 09:05:31

Exactly GrannyGravy

GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Jul-23 09:04:22

FannyCornforth

If it is who everyone is saying it is; then it’s extremely out of character

We only know anyone’s public persona not what they are like when off air

GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Jul-23 09:01:46

NannaDana have you not watched/listened to any news bulletins, read a newspaper (digital or print) over the last five days?

If so you should be aware that this news item is still getting top billing, politicians are even getting involved. It definitely has a place on the N & P Forum.

Kandinsky Wed 12-Jul-23 08:59:45

Just to let you know that at least one GN member is unhappy with the way the forum is being used

I really think you should hide this thread, it seems to be upsetting you a lot more than it should.

Take a break.

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jul-23 08:58:22

If it is who everyone is saying it is; then it’s extremely out of character

NanaDana Wed 12-Jul-23 08:55:58

nanna8

Thread still going- amazing!

Yes, a staggering example of the infinite capacity of certain mindsets to be able to conjure up complex scenarios out of diddly squat.

dragonfly46 Wed 12-Jul-23 08:55:34

lemsip

the person is being advised by his lawyers to keep quiet no doubt!
he could of course ignore that advice and clear up the speculation.

I think the man must be mentally ill to have acted in such outrageous out of character way.

We don’t know it is out of character!

Mollygo Wed 12-Jul-23 08:54:28

What interests me is the cry for privacy from the ‘victim’.
I wonder if they realised that because of their age now, anonymity won’t be possible and they would become as famous as the presenter in question.
Unless they become one of the endless celebrities that will affect their job prospects and their future life.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Jul-23 08:54:15

the guardian.com has a good article on this today, broken down into five questions for The Sun

nanna8 Wed 12-Jul-23 08:50:29

Thread still going- amazing!

Anniebach Wed 12-Jul-23 08:46:56

I hope the name isn’t released yet, the press and tv cameras will
surround the person’s home, they may have family.

Was it the parents of the 20 year old child who took allegations to a police force in April ? they found nothing criminal, then the parents went to BBC, then to the Sun