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BBC presenter allegations.

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Kandinsky Sun 09-Jul-23 13:10:49

I know the last thread was taken down at the op’s request - but if anyone wants to continue discussing this major news item I’ve started this one.

Sparklefizz Mon 10-Jul-23 13:12:56

This was being discussed on the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 and a lawyer pointed out that we don't know whether the huge sum of money paid to the young person was as a result of blackmail.

Doodledog Mon 10-Jul-23 13:11:26

Anniebach

I don’t know who has been named but how has this person set themselves up to be ‘a pillar of the community’. ?

You would know if you knew who has been (unofficially) named.

Anniebach Mon 10-Jul-23 13:09:09

I don’t know who has been named but how has this person set themselves up to be ‘a pillar of the community’. ?

Kate1949 Mon 10-Jul-23 13:05:52

I think it is our business when the licence fee is paying their salary and they have set themselves up as a trustworthy, pillar of the community person and are obviously not that person at all. It is foolish to think that you wouldn't be found out.

Anniebach Mon 10-Jul-23 13:05:12

MOnica. I agree fully with you

Doodledog Mon 10-Jul-23 13:04:13

GrannyGravy13

Sago

Well it’s out now! I am very surprised.
Poor man is now going to be fed to the lions.
He was highly respected, what a stupid thing to do.

I really hope it isn’t him sago (he is named all over Twitter)

It's been all over SM for ages, but nothing has been confirmed, AFAIK.

Doodledog Mon 10-Jul-23 13:03:20

Sago

Well it’s out now! I am very surprised.
Poor man is now going to be fed to the lions.
He was highly respected, what a stupid thing to do.

Is it? Where have you seen the report, please? I can't find anything on the BBC website.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 10-Jul-23 13:02:16

Sago

Well it’s out now! I am very surprised.
Poor man is now going to be fed to the lions.
He was highly respected, what a stupid thing to do.

I really hope it isn’t him sago (he is named all over Twitter)

Doodledog Mon 10-Jul-23 13:01:26

Wyllow3

Doodledog

"Addiction is a terrible thing, and if the perpetrator has been feeding the habit of a young person whose mother is worried for his (or her?) life"

This is the first time I've read it suggested that the accused person actually was involved in introducing drugs to the minor (if indeed they were 17 not 18)

He didn't, AFAIK. But that's what the money was being spent on, and that's what the mother was trying to stop. Without the money her child would not have been able to buy them.

M0nica Mon 10-Jul-23 13:00:31

If what has been done is a crime, then the matter should be in police hands.

If what was done was entirely legal then it is nobody's business other than those involved.

I fail to see why something a tv presenter does, which is entirely legal, should be headline news, if is of no interest if the car mechanic across the road dowes the same thing.

Surely sniggering over sexual peccadilloes is such childish, immature behaviour.

Kate1949 Mon 10-Jul-23 12:55:53

Poor man? Really?

Sago Mon 10-Jul-23 12:52:15

Well it’s out now! I am very surprised.
Poor man is now going to be fed to the lions.
He was highly respected, what a stupid thing to do.

Wyllow3 Mon 10-Jul-23 12:49:58

Doodledog

"Addiction is a terrible thing, and if the perpetrator has been feeding the habit of a young person whose mother is worried for his (or her?) life"

This is the first time I've read it suggested that the accused person actually was involved in introducing drugs to the minor (if indeed they were 17 not 18)

Doodledog Mon 10-Jul-23 12:45:46

The story does appear to have taken the heat out of the George Osbourne wedding email, doesn't it? 🤔

HousePlantQueen Mon 10-Jul-23 12:39:57

Anniebach

Should employers be responsible for the private lives of their
employees ?

I have wondered the same. Would there have been all this feeding frenzy if it had been a banker?

I am sure this dreadful government are delighted that the media are focusing on this sordid and sad business, rather than the things which matter to people ie paying their mortgage/rent. When this matter is old news, there will be some more revelations about Harry and Meghan to distract those who fall for it

Doodledog Mon 10-Jul-23 12:38:54

Anniebach

Should employers be responsible for the private lives of their
employees ?

I think that depends on the nature of the employment. In the same way as it is more shocking when a policeman is a rapist, or a priest is found guilty of sexual crimes, it is important that someone employed by the BBC to report on stories or make announcements that are extremely important to the nation is trustworthy.

Yes, the Sun is hypocritical - that is undeniable - but I've never understood why many people seem to think that two wrongs cancel one another out. Addiction is a terrible thing, and if the perpetrator has been feeding the habit of a young person whose mother is worried for his (or her?) life, I don't blame her for going to the papers when her approach to the BBC got her nowhere. I would stop at nothing to protect the lives of my children, whether or not they had made foolish choices in their youth that had contributed to the state they were in.

No, the BBC is not able to control the lives of its employees any more than any other employer, and of course they will hear all kinds of spurious allegations, but I think this goes beyond 'private life'. Asking for (and possessing) sexually explicit photos and videos of someone under 18 is a crime, and it is not compatible with the BBCs position as national broadcaster to have someone accused of such a crime continuing to present gravely serious stories (or ones of national celebration, for that matter). He hasn't been named (rightly), and nor should he be until the investigation is complete, but IMO the sooner it is made public the better, so there is no further speculation that implicates innocent people.

How long can it take to investigate? There will be bank statements and photos as evidence (although if the 'child' in the case is not co-operating, it might not be easy to access them, I suppose). If it turns out that there are no charges to answer, then a statement to that effect can be made - prevarication is only feeding the speculation.

Wyllow3 Mon 10-Jul-23 12:38:18

We don't!

Anniebach Mon 10-Jul-23 12:33:40

Sexual predator,you know this to be true ?

MerylStreep Mon 10-Jul-23 12:33:19

Wyllow3

I would trust the police if I had video evidence. It's not a "he said, he said". Approaching my MP? Depends entirely on the MP, I'd trust mine.

There was video evidence of Wayne Couzens exposing himself at a McDonalds drive through. That was reported together with his number plate.
What did the Met do, Jack shit. Then in a short while he went on to murder beautiful Sarah.
My distrust of the Met goes back many years through personal experience with my own family.

lemsip Mon 10-Jul-23 12:28:12

whoever you work for Im sure you would lose your job if found to be a sexual predator in your private life.... others wouldn't want to work with such a person.

the bbc and itv have a duty of care to other employees.

Casdon Mon 10-Jul-23 12:26:30

www.internetmatters.org/hub/news-blogs/what-is-onlyfans-what-parents-need-to-know/
This site has 210 million members.

Anniebach Mon 10-Jul-23 12:21:39

What consent has been bought ?

Kandinsky Mon 10-Jul-23 12:20:18

You can’t really blame the Sun, yes they had ‘page 3’ for years but it wasn’t illegal & no one had to buy it.
I’ve never bought the sun in my life.

Galaxy Mon 10-Jul-23 12:19:30

Perhaps if we as a society created a culture where this is not acceptable, and discussed it more openly then things would improve. If you have a culture where men can buy consent then dont be surprised if vulnerable young people get hurt in the process.

Galaxy Mon 10-Jul-23 12:14:52

Well yes but that doesnt make this right.