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BBC presenter allegations.

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Kandinsky Sun 09-Jul-23 13:10:49

I know the last thread was taken down at the op’s request - but if anyone wants to continue discussing this major news item I’ve started this one.

HousePlantQueen Mon 10-Jul-23 12:13:16

I am sickened by the hypocrisy of The Sun getting all hot under the collar about this alleged incident. The same newspaper which published photographs of topless teenagers every day for years, and ran a breathless article about Charlotte Church 'becoming legal' on her 16th birthday. Disgusting.

Anniebach Mon 10-Jul-23 11:49:56

Should employers be responsible for the private lives of their
employees ?

dragonfly46 Mon 10-Jul-23 11:47:20

tickingbird

I’ll probably get piled on for what I’m about to say but if the person is who I think it is his life is ruined. I hope we don’t have a tragic end to this. I don’t know the facts as don’t read The Sun or have particular interest in other people’s sex lives so don’t know if this was just an online thing or if they met in person.

It’s all very grubby but it’s happening all the time. There’s even been several tv programmes about the sex webcam industry. I don’t think the public, The Sun or anyone else should sit in judgement on what someone gets up to in their private life. If a ‘child’ is involved then what is said child doing working for a sex line?

This whole story is nasty on so many levels and more than anything just highlights that BBC top brass are useless, much like ITV counterparts. Their huge salaries certainly don’t match any abilities to manage staff or deal with problems such as this or the Schofield one.

I agree entirely.
I find the whole thing very sad.

tickingbird Mon 10-Jul-23 11:44:19

I’ll probably get piled on for what I’m about to say but if the person is who I think it is his life is ruined. I hope we don’t have a tragic end to this. I don’t know the facts as don’t read The Sun or have particular interest in other people’s sex lives so don’t know if this was just an online thing or if they met in person.

It’s all very grubby but it’s happening all the time. There’s even been several tv programmes about the sex webcam industry. I don’t think the public, The Sun or anyone else should sit in judgement on what someone gets up to in their private life. If a ‘child’ is involved then what is said child doing working for a sex line?

This whole story is nasty on so many levels and more than anything just highlights that BBC top brass are useless, much like ITV counterparts. Their huge salaries certainly don’t match any abilities to manage staff or deal with problems such as this or the Schofield one.

Callistemon21 Mon 10-Jul-23 11:41:26

GrannyGravy13

Anniebach

The NSPCC had no problem with a 17 year appearing topless in the Sun

Sam Fox was only 16 when she first appeared topless in The Sun, she quit her school exams and moved straight onto Page 3

I didn't realise The Sun had published photos of a topless child.

How hypocritical

Foxygloves Mon 10-Jul-23 11:32:03

Curtaintwitcher

Has the person actually broken any laws? The girl was 17 when this happened, so not a child or below the age of consent.
It seems she spent the money on drugs and now she blames him for giving her the money!

It was a youth, not a girl.
I understand that although 17 is not technically a minor, (the first payments for sexually explicit photos were allegedly made when the youth was 17) while the legal age of consent in the UK is 16, it is a crime to make or possess indecent images of anyone under 18.

Wyllow3 Mon 10-Jul-23 11:27:09

I would trust the police if I had video evidence. It's not a "he said, he said". Approaching my MP? Depends entirely on the MP, I'd trust mine.

Curtaintwitcher Mon 10-Jul-23 11:20:48

Has the person actually broken any laws? The girl was 17 when this happened, so not a child or below the age of consent.
It seems she spent the money on drugs and now she blames him for giving her the money!

FannyCornforth Mon 10-Jul-23 11:15:14

Meryl yes, very good point.
Who exactly can we trust these days?
Very depressing

MerylStreep Mon 10-Jul-23 10:54:43

To be honest, the police would be the last people I would go to when the complaint is against a very high profile person
How many beautiful young Asian women went to the police for help before they were murdered by family members.

Wyllow3 Mon 10-Jul-23 10:53:55

What Casdon says.

However, most of the discussion above has not been prurient but looking at the law, social media, consequences of actions, protection, concern, on a topic of broad interest to all,

Which is why I've followed it.

When you go public in the way the Mum did, she is inevitably opening the door to speculation about their family life.

I'm very angry with the Sun but I shouldn't be surprised.

nanna8 Mon 10-Jul-23 10:35:37

They have actually named someone online here but, not knowing the man, it means nothing to me and anyway who knows if they are right or if it is just someone who doesn’t like him?

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 10-Jul-23 10:31:41

Anniebach

I didn’t have babysitters when my daughters were 17 yet it’s against the law to leave a child alone

You can stop feeling guilty Annie.

There's no legal age a child can be left home alone, but it’s against the law to leave a child alone if it puts them at risk. Every child matures differently, so it would be almost impossible to have a "one size fits all" law. (NSPCC)

Anniebach Mon 10-Jul-23 10:28:54

Not all is different, a 17 year old child! can join the army and train to kill

BlueBelle Mon 10-Jul-23 10:21:06

*Yes, that was unbelievably awful re Wyman.
And her mother had a relationship with Wyman’s son.
I believe that Mandy Smith later had a nervous breakdown.
I know that she had very bad anorexia*
….and not forgetting Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin very different times

Anniebach Mon 10-Jul-23 10:20:03

Who here has made a statement?

nanna8 Mon 10-Jul-23 10:19:36

Very odd. Why on earth would you ring the Sun, of all papers? Not going to go there ….

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 10-Jul-23 10:18:42

Gossip ruins lives and this thread is about, and adding to, gossip.

I do wish GN would close this thread down.

The proper place for the statements to be made is a police station.

Anniebach Mon 10-Jul-23 10:09:28

Did the mother or son inform the Sun of the telephone call, they certainly don’t contact the police

FannyCornforth Mon 10-Jul-23 10:02:03

The mother reported the issue to the BBC in May.
It (the BBC) seems to be investigating now due to the report in The Sun.

Primrose53 Mon 10-Jul-23 10:01:36

Tv channels know who it is now but are not allowed to say. Just heard this on TV.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 10-Jul-23 10:00:57

Maggiemaybe

What a shameful circus. I’ll leave my pitchfork in the shed till I know for certain who, if anyone, to aim it at. Which would probably be only after a fair trial in a court of law.

And this.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 10-Jul-23 09:58:41

Casdon

Let’s be honest, we know virtually nothing. It’s all very well blaming the BBC, blaming the mother, blaming the presenter. Actually, so far we don’t know what information the BBC initially received or what they did with it, we don’t know whether the mother’s motives were what she says they were, and we don’t know whether the presenter believed the young person was over 18, how they met them, whether they were one of many people the young person was potentially selling services to, whether they were being blackmailed - it’s all speculation and gossip. All we actually know is that a presenter has been suspended pending further investigation.
The Sun should have gone to the police, and used their powers directly with the BBC to force action in my opinion if they believed the mother and had the young person’s permission, not indulged in irresponsible journalism that will destroy lives.

This.

Maggiemaybe Mon 10-Jul-23 09:58:30

What a shameful circus. I’ll leave my pitchfork in the shed till I know for certain who, if anyone, to aim it at. Which would probably be only after a fair trial in a court of law.

FannyCornforth Mon 10-Jul-23 09:58:17

Yes, that was unbelievably awful re Wyman.
And her mother had a relationship with Wyman’s son.
I believe that Mandy Smith later had a nervous breakdown.
I know that she had very bad anorexia