The Refugee Ship

Well, it is worrying - if they think they might be deported, to wherever, many will just disappear.

eazybee

There is a great deal of concern about the floating barge which will be moored close to Portland and there will be regular access to shore. There is little to do there, and extremely limited employment opportunities. Also very few police.
Interesting to see all the local people who were so in favour of migrants being allowed in without check are suddenly realising the seriousness of the situation when it appears on their doorstep, or rather their quay.

There are a lot of errors in your post eazy

Apparently the migrants will be ‘encouraged’ to be back on board by 11pm. But they cannot be forced as that’s against their human rights. After a day out in Weymouth town centre, how many young men that we know nothing at all about, will disappear into the ether?

I find it very worrying.

eazybee

There is a great deal of concern about the floating barge which will be moored close to Portland and there will be regular access to shore. There is little to do there, and extremely limited employment opportunities. Also very few police.
Interesting to see all the local people who were so in favour of migrants being allowed in without check are suddenly realising the seriousness of the situation when it appears on their doorstep, or rather their quay.

Well, they, like residents in other areas, were fine with it all while it only affected places like Dover and London.

They don't seem quite so keen if it's going to affect their areas.😗

450 illegals arrived today nearly one barge full.

It does focus minds when it’s on your doorstep eazybee.

There is a great deal of concern about the floating barge which will be moored close to Portland and there will be regular access to shore. There is little to do there, and extremely limited employment opportunities. Also very few police.
Interesting to see all the local people who were so in favour of migrants being allowed in without check are suddenly realising the seriousness of the situation when it appears on their doorstep, or rather their quay.

Meanwhile, in Dorset, it is down to volunteers to provide accommodation on converted buses for rough sleepers.

www.neighbourly.com/TheBusShelterDT

Sago

Why on earth should we be made to feel guilty about due diligence?

Many of these men are deliberately arriving without papers, knowing the processing can take months, they are fed, housed, clothed and then disappear.

Who and where are they?

Over 30 absconded in a week from a facility near us.

If they are to be housed on this barge until we know who they are then I think it’s an excellent idea.

I've heard of this Sago from a friend who has the same in her village. They were put in a hotel away from the village and the nearby town and made a nuisance of themselves wandering around with nothing to do. Some were complaining about the facilities, which ordinary people without homes would have been pleased to stay in.
As you say when they disappear where do they go and who monitors their movements?
It must be awful if the conditions in your own country are so bad you feel you have to leave. They need to be processed as soon as possible to sort the genuine ones out.
A barge isn't as dangerous as what the Greeks appear to have done.

To be fair, they will be allowed to get off of the ship and go where they like.

The ship is just for eating/sleeping.

Not exactly slavery.🙂

Nicenanny3

How can they be deported when they have no Id's, Passports anything to identify where they actually come from.

The system is demonstrably worse since the UK left the EU, because we no longer have access to the Eurodac fingerprinting ID system.

Riverwalk

^All the £millions that is spent should have been spent on granting the HO more money to train assessors, get a better system up and running then people will be allowed to work or, if they fail, deported, instead of languishing in hotels and centres.^

This, in spades.

And more, bigger spades

How can they be deported when they have no Id's, Passports anything to identify where they actually come from.

All the £millions that is spent should have been spent on granting the HO more money to train assessors, get a better system up and running then people will be allowed to work or, if they fail, deported, instead of languishing in hotels and centres.

This, in spades.

Callistemon21

Iam64

I’m unhappy about hotels as well. No pleasing me as I do agree, we need to know who and where asylum seekers are.

They just are not getting on with the processing system.

The barge is not ideal at all, Rwanda is a shocking idea.

All the £millions that is spent should have been spent on granting the HO more money to train assessors, get a better system up and running then people will be allowed to work or, if they fail, deported, instead of languishing in hotels and centres.

Yes!

Iam64

I’m unhappy about hotels as well. No pleasing me as I do agree, we need to know who and where asylum seekers are.

They just are not getting on with the processing system.

The barge is not ideal at all, Rwanda is a shocking idea.

All the £millions that is spent should have been spent on granting the HO more money to train assessors, get a better system up and running then people will be allowed to work or, if they fail, deported, instead of languishing in hotels and centres.

The UN refugee agency is concerned about the profound impact on human rights and the international refugee protection system.
It states the Illegal Migration Bill is at variance with the country’s obligations under international human rights and refugee law.

Sky News is currently reporting that two Cruise Ships which were to be used to house refugees have been refused docking permission (one in Liverpool and one in Scotland, didn’t catch the Port) today, so are returning to whence they came.

Well I’m glad it has been passed GG. Something has to be done. However the appeal has still to be heard.

Yes welbeck, if they are permitted to work - or if they disappear - they are prime candidates for slavery,

slavery is not legal anymore.
therefore those who are not permitted to work, legally, are more prone to being caught up in slavery.

It’s being reported that the Immigration Bill has been passed.

So now we have to wait and see I suppose.

Biscuitmuncher

It's like modern day slavery, there's big money being made by bringing all this cheap labour in, and no one wants to stop it

Not sure how it can be ‘slavery’ if they’re not permitted to work…

Nobody is bringing all this cheap labour in Biscuitmuncher, it’s arriving all by itself. And the current government certainly wants to stop it but it just keeps on coming. Some of these people do indeed end up in modern day slavery.

Amazing welbeck, and I see bus services are laid on - we have no buses here and people have to carry on driving well past the time that, for safety’s sake, they should have stopped, so that particularly hacks me off.

a local person on the news said there will be daily 'liberty' (!) boats to take them to and from weymouth beach.

It's like modern day slavery, there's big money being made by bringing all this cheap labour in, and no one wants to stop it