The Refugee Ship

Having just seen the accommodation on TV, I can't agree that it's grim at all. And with medical and sport facilities and all very clean and tidy, I would think some of our homeless people would be only too glad to have the opportunity to move there while they get their lives sorted.

Casdon

Shinamae

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

So how many are you going to take in Casdon?

The same as you Shinamae, obviously!

I am more than satisfied with the accommodation they’re being offered. You obviously are not so need to put your money where your mouth is…🤓

Shinamae

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

So how many are you going to take in Casdon?

The same as you Shinamae, obviously!

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

You are absolutely having a laugh aren’t you? i would happily stay on that barge, All Inclusive, I tell you!

“Disused military facilities are probably the best option.” 🤣🤣
You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. Most disused military sites have long ago been vandalised. A site not far from us was sold off and new house were for sale. we went to have a look and they had done up a few but the rest were unfit for human habitation.

My friend’s husband and son both work on the rigs and I have seen photos of their accommodation and they are not a patch on this barge.

Have you seen our veterans sleeping in shop doorways covered in old blankets and cardboard? They would jump at the chance of places like these?

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

So how many are you going to take in Casdon?

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing

And you can’t just build one apartment, you have to build a block - plus the infrastructure ….

I don’t know but the land generally accounts for about a third of the cost. And land is expensive.

How much does it cost to build a council house or apartment? How many could be built for our struggling families and homeless?

I really don’t see how this accommodation could be described as grim. It seems clean and serviceable, Our homeless people and those in substandard rental accommodation would jump at the chance of it - even without the extras of free food 24 hours a day (why the hell is that necessary?) Wi-Fi, mobile phones, transport, outings … it’s ridiculous,

I won’t put the details up describing how my friends daughter, husband and young baby are living but if they were offended that accommodation she would think she’d hit the jackpot.

Shinamae 👏👏👍how many people would honestly want hundreds of bored single young men on their doorsteps whatever their race? Certainly not me.

Casdon

Very grim. As it just said on the news it looks like a 1980s cross channel ferry.

It looks serviceable and fit for purpose to me.

Better than a lot of UK rented accommodation and better than some schools which are near to collapse.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1793751/Bibby-Stockholm-Portland-barge-migrants-dorset

Casdon

Very grim. As it just said on the news it looks like a 1980s cross channel ferry.

🤦‍♀️

Very grim. As it just said on the news it looks like a 1980s cross channel ferry.

Grim? 🤔

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Germanshepherdsmum

That’s truly appalling. Disgraceful. They will be telling all their friends about it and even more boats will arrive. Why should they have such luxuries that our own people can’t hope to afford? So-called detention centres should be just that - with exercise facilities and three meals a day, a tv room - in other words, what would be provided to prisoners, which is what they should be.

I think the Home Office is probably / possibly afraid that keeping xxx number of young men cooped up offshore for months, maybe even years who knows, will lead to trouble, which is why they've thrown in these organised 'tours' or whatever.

As well as complying with human rights - I suspect they (the HO) are between a rock and a hard place in terms of trying to deal with a quickly-developing problem that we (and from what I've read) the RoEurope are increasingly at a loss as to know quite how to deal with.

If they detain the migrants and they (the migrants) 'kick-off' the government will be in trouble, and they're going to be in trouble for providing facilities that many of our own impoverished can't access.

We are just reacting to the situation as it develops. It was on the cards back in 2015 at least that this was going to be a big problem, but the EU has dragged its feet, and so have we... there should have been cross-country, urgent talks, aimed at a co-ordinated integrated plans to deal with it.

The 2016 deal between the EU and Turkey which was aimed at preventing refugees from Syria traveling to the EU ( and thus to the UK) and which was for a while quite successful, seems to have fallen through after the escalation of fighting there and the Turkish president announced that it couldn't cope with the new wave of refugees. And opened its sea borders and the west of Turkey to allow the refugees into Europe. Since the start of the war I believe Turkey took in in excess of 3 million refugees. There's little reliable data, but it would appear that the majority of refugees who stayed in Turkey were the elderly, women and children... which is why we are seeing such numbers of young men. The President's Chief Advisor once told the BBC that Europe's approach appeared to be that as long as they don't come our way, it's somebody else's problem.

What a holy, bloody awful mess.

Dickens
As an aside, when calling a MayDay you can get your coordinates on your phone.

17:58Casdon

It’s absolutely grim. I’m surprised to discover that some of you live in substandard accommodation yourselves if you think this is luxurious. Just look at the pictures.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66270811

your joking aren't you, we are talking about people who some on here have said are fleeing war and famine, any port in a storm surely you would be grateful for if that was the truth although I suppose if you'd pay £3 500 to the smuggling gangs for a trip here and were expecting a 4 star hotel in London you might be disappointed, shame

Indeed Nicenanny.

I will leave those posters less fortunate than I am to comment, but it certainly isn’t my idea of grim free accommodation.

Yes let's hope the Supreme Court agrees Rwanda is a safe place. Let's hope we are waving off plane loads of illegal boat migrants soon, news will soon reach Calais by YouTube and Twitter surely they will think twice before paying thousands of pounds to get here only to then end up on a plane to Rwanda.