How Should I / One Vote, especially in regards to The EU? 🗳️ 🇪🇺

I'm not a Labour Party member and am unhappy with its pledge-dropping. Of course no govt can spend money that it does not have but we are hearing too much from Rachel Reeve about promises that can't be delivered and the importance of growth - she's beginning to sound like Liz Truss.

If she and KS don't move away from talk of what they won't do and talk more positively about the reforms they plan to make there won't be much incentive to vote for them. They are right to back pedal (ho ho) on aggressive ulez schemes in areas that lack good, affordable, reliable public transport. I hope they will build in concessions for small businesses in urban areas.

I'm in a red wall constituency that has never voted tory before. Voting for any other party than Labour would, for me, be a wasted vote as the main objective here will be to stop the tory candidate (who will be completely new to the constituency as our current tory MP has said he's not standing again in 2024) and the Lb Dems and Greens wouldn't have a chance of doing that.

I don't think that Labour's declared 'doing Brexit better' policy is really going to work.

What a well-framed question FannyCornforth.

My two pennyworths would start with your membership of the Labour Party. As a Party member, you are pledged to support the democratically elected party. So if you feel you can do that, I think you should.

However, the aim of your party at this point is to get elected. You may feel you have to vote tactically to do that. I feel that still supports your membership.

Those issues you talk about not agreeing on should really be for discussion within the party. Attacking your party from outside is not really very useful. I gave the analogy of the burning house and the firemen the other day. If you don't like the firemen you have, and insist on waiting for firemen who suit you better, your house could have burnt down. Equally, if you keep challenging your own party outside the areas the party puts aside for you to do so, e.g., conferences etc., you could destroy your own party.

Once your party is elected, you could review the situation and possibly change parties to support one that pushes harder at the smaller areas that interest you. This would be particularly relevant if we had a non-Tory government, but not a labour government with a large majority.

Well, we are out of the EU, like it or not... thanks to the Tory Party. So it has to work and I expect that Labour will make a better fist of it than any other party.

Whatever Labour do, for good or evil, it can be assured that they will not inflict on us FIVE, yes FIVE prime ministers in seven years, nor will they inflict on us TEN, yes TEN education secretaries in 13 years.

It's like a banana republic.

Any party except the Tory party!

And I would be in favour of re-joining the EU, or at least having a more effective alliance with it.

I will again vote tactically to get the Tories out. For a long time I've done that by voting Lib Dem even though I used to belong to the Labour Party; the Lib Dem candidate is very good, so no problem.
But now I really wouldn't want to vote Labour anyway, as I feel Keir Starmer is not a good leader, and that the party has lost its way under him.
My vote would ideally go to the Green Party, but that would risk letting the current waste of space Conservative MP in for another term, so Lib Dem it is.

I suspect that for a lot of people, myself included, the choice of who I vote for at the next election will tend to be the candidate who is most likely to get the Tories out, or keep them out. That's not to say that I'm particularly impressed by any of the alternatives right now, but we most certainly can't go on like this.

I've voted in every G.E. since 1970, and I can honestly say that I don't remember a less impressive bunch of lightweights than this current crop of no-hopers, of whatever political persuasion. Depressing.

The last point 😄 - just to say that all the parties will be working towards at the very least closer working with the EU to a greater or lesser extent, but I think that the Tories will find it most difficult because it is so fractured and the far right will put up an enormous fight with the assistance of Murdoch et al.

PS with regard to Europe - I think it is a question of suck it and see. We certainly can’t continue as we are but I think that there will be a benefit (absolute necessity) of working more closely and once businesses and the country begins to see the success from that- re-think exactly what we want.

Well!

Tbh if I had a choice and knew that my vote counted, I suspect that I would vote green. But as the only vote that would count to ensure the demise of the Tory government is Labour in my constituency I shall vote labour. But I definitely recommend voting tactically, we can see from the last by elections how effective it is.

With regard to policies - I think it is a question of wait and see.

I am holding my nose at the moment and hoping very much that Starmer is playing the long game and once in power will begin to attempt to rebuild all the services that the Tories have destroyed. That along with sorting out the tax system and redirecting wealth towards the very poor. At present I am alarmed at what I am hearing from Reeves, but again will hold my judgement.

But to my mind - nothing is more important than getting shot of this disastrous past decade where wages have stagnated at 2008 levels, productivity have ground to a halt, food bank use has risen year on year, nhs is on its knees, rivers/seas totally polluted, on and on the list goes.

The U.K. cannot survive another Tory term.