Charlotte Owen, Baroness Owen of Alderley Edge

Anniel Having contributed to GN for a while it is my view that posters on this thread come from across the political spectrum, not just the left.

I agree, it is not just posters who are to the left who think this has a whiff of fish about it.

Quite honestly, if (and it is if) the reason is that she is the daughter of Boris Johnson, then would he do this, knowing the attention and curiosity it would attract from all sectors?
Had he not done this then no-one would be wondering about her parentage.
Because no-one outside a few in Government would have heard of her.

Does anyone approve?

My theory is that she kept copies of documents and recordings which are in a safe somewhere.

Well said foxie

Anniel Having contributed to GN for a while it is my view that posters on this thread come from across the political spectrum, not just the left. With regard to Keir Mather, he was voted into parliament by 16, 456 eligible voters. Charlotte Owen was nominated by one ex P.M. who had already elevated his brother to the HOLs and who had also tried to do the same for his father together with a further rag tag of people who had done nothing to deserve it apart from giving their support to a man who had been found to be a liar. Yes, I'd like to know what Charlotte Owen has done to qualify her for a seat in the Lords, actually I think the British public have a right to know why anyone is chosen to be there because of the authority they hold on our behalf.

I’m sure that poor old Rachel would be extremely upset that I’d posted a photo of her looking gorgeous and comparing her favourably to a woman decades her junior…

Growing up in her family. with her father and her brother and all the terrible things that befell her mother - I’m sure that she can take it (whatever ‘it’ is that I’m guilty of…)

Rachel Johnson, like her brother, blows with the wind. I thought she was great when she supported the LibDems but I really don’t know where she stands on most things these days. She has her brothers charm but I don’t trust her any more.

I know exactly who Rachel Johnson is, thanks

Miaow Miaow! I did not realise how catty some of you can be. I agree that someone so young does not have experience of life to offer wisdom on important legislation. I just object to you all using conjecture about her parentage. Then the comparison to Rachel Johnson. Rachel is a well respected presenter on LBC and is a journalist. Just leave her alone.
I was advised on my latest thread not to trust anything on Guido Fawkes but the lefty’s here are using Twitter comments to use in this diatribe. Nor were you questioning the young 25 year old who is now an MP. What does he know about real life? He can be defeated in an election but he will still be giving us all the benefit of his wisdom, Some of you are real hypocrites.

I think there is a lot of wisdom in the House of Lords which is why I’m not totally opposed to getting rid of it. And, in recent years, the HOL’s has been the grown up version of parliament and the voice of sanity. But what this young woman has done to deserve to be in it is beyond me. Doesn’t she get paid for life as well, regardless of whether or not she even turns up?

I don’t care who her parents are, I just think she shouldn’t have been given a peerage. In my opinion she’s too young, and I have no idea what she’s done to deserve it. But then again, I’ve no idea what most of them have done to deserve it.

I agree

Freya, when I was a senior leader the fact that someone had " done no wrong " was expected of all staff. It would not be sufficient to promote them.

Given Johnson's wholly unsatisfactory period as PM I think all of his honours nominations should have been refused. Ditto those of Truss. With a bit of luck Starmer will reform the Lord's and we shal be shut of the lot of them. It should be an elected second Chamber like other countries have with a lower age limit of 50.

Or she knows too much and it is make sure she 🤐

There is no actual evidence a super injunction exists - its just Twitter speculation, take anything you read on there with a very large pinch of salt. Also no evidence that she has any connection to Boris Johnson, barring having worked for him for a few years. Frankly, most of the House of Lords are political appointees anyway.

Luckygirl3

I think we know why she is there.

Yes, can really only be one of 2 things!

She is his progeny or he had an affair and this is to keep it quiet - it's disgusting ... what have we come to? Never seen it so bad, they are all so corrupt and we are putting up with it!

Freya5

This is really a horrid thread. Casting aspersions on a young woman, done no wrong as far as I can see, oh given a life peerage, can remember Blair giving out, 300 was it, to increase Labour numbers in the House of Lords. Uhm. As for the increasingly nasty comments re her parentage, wonder if it was a young lefty peerage you'd all be so awful.

So if doing no wrong whilst working for the government is the criterion for being granted a peerage, that would qualify many of us too.

Where is mine?
🥇

I Totally agree with maddyone it’s about time the House of Lords was abolished, all these people being paid a small fortune just to turn up and the elderly ones have a snooze
Just think what the country could use their money on.
It’s also my opinion that it’s disgusting that these titles are hereditary.

Sunak!!!

It stinks! What has she done to deserve this ? ( As if I didn’t know!!)
Surakarta should never have endorsed this person or any others Johnson put forward. He is a wimp.
The H of L should be an elected body, scaled down and representative of cross parties.
I am becoming more and more embarrassed by the Government which does not represent me!!

Indeed Maizie, and then call it 'Democracy'- just as they call a vote 'Democratic' when it was won by a tiny margin on what is now clearly proven to be lies and outside interference by Russian and other oligarchs. Bizarre does not even begin to describe it.

Freya she might have "done no wrong" but what has she done to deserve being elevated to the Lords? That's the question ,,,

Precisely, foxie48

Intriguing that people who voted to leave the EU because of its 'unelected bureaucrats governing us' are perfectly happy to have unelected nonentities elevated to one of our legislative chambers of Parliament for no compelling reason.

Well said, Fanny
Oh you lefties! You are awful but I like you and especially when you get put on the norty step.
Of course giving a peerage to this woman for no good reason is bound to spark gossip speculation. The way to halt idle tittle tattle is to tell us why Charlotte merits such an elevation when poor Nadine doesn't. Boris, you are a fickle rascal.

Freya she might have "done no wrong" but what has she done to deserve being elevated to the Lords? That's the question and as she has been, albeit briefly, a political aid she will have been well aware of the controversy that would surround her appointment. fwiw Blair reformed the House of Lords in 1999, leaving 92 hereditary lords, most of whom would have been Tory stalwarts, he appointed 16 new life peers and for the FIRST time in it's history the House of Lords had a Labour majority. tbh I think many people would like to abolish it completely as it's become a dreadful example of political patronage instead of fulfilling it's functions, one of which is to hold the Govt accountable.

Yes. I’d be just as gossipy and ‘awful’ if it was regarding a peerage given by a left leaning ex-PM with a record and character as dubious, duplicitous and downright immoral as that of Johnson

Just what I was thinking Freya5. Mind you I'd love to be Lady Aveline of Gransnet!