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Charlotte Owen, Baroness Owen of Alderley Edge

(110 Posts)
NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 08:25:17

Youngest life peer sworn in yesterday.
This still amazes me.
And why don't we know anything about her?

Also, does this mean she lives in Alderly Edge or was born there, or her family is from there?
I love Alderly Edge!

Also, know Peers are often (always?) "of" somewhere but how is this decided?

westendgirl Tue 25-Jul-23 08:27:37

Still wondering why she is there .

Luckygirl3 Tue 25-Jul-23 08:32:10

I think we know why she is there.

Jaxjacky Tue 25-Jul-23 08:32:57

She ‘worked* for Boris, not particularly well thought of.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Owen,_Baroness_Owen_of_Alderley_Edge

NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 08:37:09

Yes. I know she interned for five (?) years but how did she do that? Must be pretty wealthy to survive in London all that time.
Who are her family?

And what about the "of" part?
Does anyone know?
Thanks.

Grantanow Tue 25-Jul-23 08:41:07

Disgraceful.

Grannynannywanny Tue 25-Jul-23 08:44:05

The title doesn’t necessarily reflect their birthplace. Michelle Mone, renowned for her successful lingerie business and allegedly making a £65 million profit from dud covid PPE , was born in the east end of Glasgow. She is now Baroness Mone of Mayfair. You couldn’t make it up.

NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 08:46:17

Does she live in Mayfair?

winterwhite Tue 25-Jul-23 09:02:33

Photo of her all over the press and news this morning. Blonde hair falling all over her shoulders and an expression that looked rather smug to me. Both quite out of place.
I endorsed the very sideways expression of the woman on her right.

NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 09:03:46

Just found this:
twitter.com/UkVolt/status/1683488298159710210?t=ht-AFjl7oeVzqqhmq-Xjig&s=19

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jul-23 09:17:12

I assume that this is a fake

foxie48 Tue 25-Jul-23 09:50:18

Nothing would surprise me! However, there is absolutely no good reason why this young and inexperienced woman should be given a peerage and both BJ's and LT's nominations are an abomination. It's well past the time when we should abolish this ridiculous system of political patronage.

NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 09:50:31

Maybe?
Who knows. It may be true but not official?

maddyone Tue 25-Jul-23 09:53:58

The House of Lords and all the ‘honours’ system should be abolished in my opinion.

Riverwalk Tue 25-Jul-23 10:25:27

The 25 year-old new Labour MP will be subject to future elections and if he's no good his constituents can vote him out in the coming years.

This inexperienced young woman could be sitting in an arm of our Legislature, with all the privileges that brings, for the next 60 years without answering to anybody.

Ludicrous!

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Jul-23 11:06:20

Luckygirl3

I think we know why she is there.

Yes.

The House of Lords and all the ‘honours’ system should be abolished in my opinion
I agree maddyone

I am not against having a constitutional monarchy as the monarch does not hold power as they did centuries ago.
However, we should have an elected Upper House not an overloaded skewed system where each outgoing PM tries to ensure that their cronies still control our legislature.

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-23 11:44:11

I think we should have a mixed system, with some elected members and some nominated, as at present.

Looking at the quality of our elected MPs I think it would be foolish to depend on the electorate to always make wise and informed choices. I think that some very worthwhile people might be passed over because they don't have electoral appeal.

I would place conditions on political nominees, though. Restrict the number of peerages which can be nominated at any one time, put a lower age limit on nominees and require that they have a credible history of distinguished service to the UK.

I'd do away with the hereditaries altogether unless they were prepared to permanently renounce their peerages (i.e make them non inheritable) and also had a record of distinguished service.

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-23 11:48:10

P.S Though I strongly disapprove of Owen's ennoblement, and of the young man who was also ennobled by Johnson, we have to recognise that at present the heir to a hereditary peerage might well be entitled to sit in the Lords at an equally young age.

MayBee70 Tue 25-Jul-23 11:54:05

When I lived in Manchester I was told that Alderley Edge was famous for it’s links to witchcraft…hmm

NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 12:13:25

- MayBee70 and Myth and Legend too.

paddyann54 Tue 25-Jul-23 12:16:04

Should be easy to find her birth certificate and see if that "father" is the same as posted above .Surely if its true he cant just hand out honours to his kids?

FannyCornforth Tue 25-Jul-23 12:19:07

NotSpaghetti

Does she live in Mayfair?

I think that is like The Duke and Duchess of Devonshire living in Derbyshire for centuries.
I don’t think that the title has any bearing on anything much

FannyCornforth Tue 25-Jul-23 12:23:31

God, it’s sickening isn’t it.

I dread to think how Nadine Dorries is feeling.

It would not surprise me at all if Johnson is doing it on purpose to show off.

I see that she also worked for Osbourne.
He is a right one with the ladies too…

Ilovecheese Tue 25-Jul-23 12:26:13

Seen on twitter:
"my thoughts are with Nadine at this difficult time"

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-23 12:34:12

paddyann54

Should be easy to find her birth certificate and see if that "father" is the same as posted above .Surely if its true he cant just hand out honours to his kids?

I don't think it is true. The surname being that of his ex-wife and her resemblance to Johnson are just mere coincidence...

OTOH, he gave a peerage to his brother, so why not to a child?