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Charlotte Owen, Baroness Owen of Alderley Edge

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NotSpaghetti Tue 25-Jul-23 08:25:17

Youngest life peer sworn in yesterday.
This still amazes me.
And why don't we know anything about her?

Also, does this mean she lives in Alderly Edge or was born there, or her family is from there?
I love Alderly Edge!

Also, know Peers are often (always?) "of" somewhere but how is this decided?

FannyCornforth Thu 27-Jul-23 11:54:52

It would make a great cartoon (even if I do say so myself!)
I might even have a go at it

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jul-23 11:47:11

FannyCornforth

MayBee I totally agree.
Everything is like a big two fingers up to us.
Ironically reminiscent of his hero, Churchill

But he doesn't get which way round his fingers should be.

FannyCornforth Thu 27-Jul-23 11:45:35

MayBee I totally agree.
Everything is like a big two fingers up to us.
Ironically reminiscent of his hero, Churchill

Grantanow Thu 27-Jul-23 11:44:17

Absolutely disgraceful. Another example of the country suffering from 'long Boris'.

MayBee70 Thu 27-Jul-23 11:40:03

I think it was Johnson’s way of showing what contempt he has for everything: just him pushing the boundaries to see just how far he can go like a young child. Which he still is.

MaizieD Thu 27-Jul-23 09:26:04

There is already a committee that vets nominations to the Lords. It has no teeth. Johnson just ignored it and went ahead ennobling the son of Russian agent.

lordslibrary.parliament.uk/vetting-appointments-to-the-house-of-lords/

Luckygirl3 Thu 27-Jul-23 09:19:32

We could end the system whereby retiring PMs are allowed to chuck in any name chosen for their own political agendas or to silence those who might be able to dish the dirt. The whole system is a joke really. There should be a committee consisting of cross party representation who vets these proposals.

wendyann23 Thu 27-Jul-23 09:16:19

I just can’t believe that there is any way this honour is justified and amazed that Sunak agreed to this. It dishonours this system. Another lasting unwanted legacy of the Johnson era. And she just looked so smug and self satisfied.

NotSpaghetti Thu 27-Jul-23 09:06:46

varian - I don't think a minimum age is the answer. The answer is transparency as to why they are there.

Asside from the "privilege" of office, to be eligible to claim (up to) £323
allowance per "sitting" day for life is a massive honour in my opinion. I want to know why they are there.

FannyCornforth Thu 27-Jul-23 09:01:43

I’m pretty certain that they are AI monk
I’m slightly obsessed with AI generated imagery at the moment!

monk08 Thu 27-Jul-23 08:26:53

Those cupcakes are to cute to eat Fanny

FannyCornforth Thu 27-Jul-23 08:13:25

Well, those aren’t the photos I wanted confused

FannyCornforth Thu 27-Jul-23 08:12:44

I’m just seeing if I can post photos again, just ignore me

FannyCornforth Thu 27-Jul-23 06:25:39

vegansrock

There are photos on twitter of her alongside a photo of Johnson’s mother at the same age - uncanny likeness. And they’re both called Charlotte……

I mentioned that yesterday too.

I can’t post photos today for some reason 😔

vegansrock Thu 27-Jul-23 06:21:18

..and his first wife’s surname was Owen……

vegansrock Thu 27-Jul-23 06:12:46

There are photos on twitter of her alongside a photo of Johnson’s mother at the same age - uncanny likeness. And they’re both called Charlotte……

FannyCornforth Thu 27-Jul-23 06:04:31

Yes, MayBee it does look like her.
This is the photo I posted yesterday of Charlotte in the centre

MayBee70 Wed 26-Jul-23 22:13:30

Is this her when Johnson left Downing Street?

Oldbat1 Wed 26-Jul-23 21:37:53

The truth will out.

Shizam Wed 26-Jul-23 19:56:30

We will never be rid of the Johnson legacy. Worst PM that I can remember. And he thought himself the reincarnation of Churchill 😡

maddyone Wed 26-Jul-23 19:54:54

No more than a 25 year old person elected to Parliament can have shown their wisdom, experience, and worthiness by going to school, followed by university, followed by working for a political party. So no experience of normal life at all. He was at least elected by the people of his constituency, and therefore can be voted out of office, but still, it seems to me that there is little of real value in terms of life experience there at all.
The worst of it is though, that this young woman cannot be removed and can carry on attending the HofL and collect all its benefits both status and financial, for the rest of her life. Which could be a further 60/65 years!

varian Wed 26-Jul-23 19:40:04

Perhaps there should be a minimum age for Lords - what do you think? - 50, 60, 70?

If we're going to have Lords why should they not need to have demonstrated their wisdom, experience and worthiness, which no young person can have done by 30, certainly not this wee girl.

spabbygirl Wed 26-Jul-23 19:19:20

I think it is an absolute disgrace that we have something we know nothing about contributing our laws just cos some washed out old lothario of a PM said so, we should be able to know why she justifies it. I'm no Tory or admirer of Narine Dorries, but I'd rather see her in the HoL cos at least she's done something and been elected... well, she used to do something but she hasn't been seen in Parliament for a year or so cos she has a programme on some 'news' channel but she's still drawing her MP's salary and so are her daughters as her assistants. And they call benefits users scroungers

Chocgran Wed 26-Jul-23 18:28:38

Disgusting and proves the utter contempt we are currently held in. I have no objections on age grounds and mixed although admittedly mostly negative thoughts on the current second chamber system, but this peerage stinks! Can’t wait till next year when we voters get our say and this lot get their comeuppance.

Romola Wed 26-Jul-23 15:53:36

foxie48 you are absolutely right. It is an absolute mystery why this pretty young woman has received such an extraordinary privilege. (Isn't it?) The HoL is generously financed from public money and the public has a right to know why anyone is elevated to the peerage, thus receiving all sorts of benefits whether or not they do anything much at all. A lot of the life peers are clapped-out politicians, and I do admit that some are doing valuable work scrutinising measures which the government wishes to enact.
We are told why someone has been awarded a medal, very often well deserved. Why is it not made clear for peers? Once they're in, enjoying membership of a lovely club, nothing other than conviction of a crime requiring a custodial sentence can remove them (but they would still be called Lord or Lady).
There are about three times the number of peers we need. The sooner this bloated, unelected body is removed, the better.